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Lvl 400 "Public Servant"
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- Posted June 15th 2012 at 12:34 PM
Justin Stocks (CNE Dev)Last Edited June 15th 2012 at 1:11 PM Hi everybody!
The trinket system is one of the major strategy pieces within the game. Since the launch of the game, we have been carefully watching how players have been using it and how the odds adjustments have been impacting gameplay. We have noticed three main things: 1) The odds adjust is too low; trinkets don't feel like they really have an effect. 2) There's no reason to buy trinkets you aren't going to use, and not much incentive to buy new trinkets at all. 3) You don't win enough gold to buy all trinkets and still have money left for ranch, trinket slots, energy packs, etc. 4) Some players aren't making the best use of energy regeneration trinkets. In order to mitigate these issues, we have decided to make some adjustments to the trinket systems. I'll go through each point and what we're doing about it in order. First off, the odds adjust on each trinket is simply too low. The system was balanced for all trinket slots being unlocked and all trinkets that adjust a given stat being available, however when you only have three or four slots unlocked, and you only have three trinkets that affect a given stat, the system just doesn't adjust your wins enough. Of course, increasing the odds across the board would cause imbalance later, so our solution is called the Odds Rating system. With the Odds Rating system, instead of assigning each trinket some odds directly, we assign it Rating Points, which are converted to odds based on your level. The higher your level, the more points that are required to adjust your odds by 1%. What this means is that a low level trinket with 20 Rating can adjust your odds by 20% at level 1, but by the time you're level 40, it will only add ~5% to your odds. By assigning more Rating on higher level trinkets, we ensure that a player can always make meaningful adjustments to their odds. The Odds Rating system helps with issue #2 as well, since you're always encouraged to buy the latest versions of the trinkets that adjusts your favorite stats. But that's not all we're doing to fix point #2. We've gone the extra mile and added a new use for old, no longer meaningful trinkets: Trinket Combination. Trinket Combination allows you to take old trinkets that you may no longer use and combine all of their stats into a single trinket slot. The process generally lowers the rating given to each stat, but overall it creates a trinket that is useful at higher levels. For example, one of our new trinkets combines five old trinkets that each increase your rating by 20. The new trinket increases your odds in each stat by 10, but only takes up one trinket slot, instead of 5! On a per slot basis, that trinket gives 50 rating in one slot instead of 20! Very useful! New trinket schematics can be found in chests or earned from quests out in the world. Some chests in old content had new drops added to them, but all those drops have been automatically given to players who already opened the respective chests. The third issue was with not having enough gold to purchase all the trinkets. To mitigate this, we've moved some of the trinkets out of the store and into a new crafting system. The new system requires you to collect a number of trinket pieces in order to construct the trinkets from scratch, bypassing the gold requirement. With these trinkets removed from the store, the gold required to purchase all the trinkets is more reasonable for the pace at which you earn it. Players should find themselves with more free cash to use on ranch decorations, energy packs, or just saving up to unlock your next trinket slot. Schematics for crafted trinkets can also be found out in the world. The new Trinketsmith in the Commons is used for both Trinket Combinations and Trinket Crafting! Finally, we come to the energy regeneration trinkets. We've found that there are players who simply don't know these trinkets exist, or have them but do not equip them. The time it takes to refill your entire energy bar for any given level is balanced around using both energy regeneration trinkets available, so to further these goals we are going to alter two of the trinket slots to lock in your energy regeneration trinkets at all times. You will not be able to adjust these trinkets, and when you find an upgrade it will automatically be equipped. The two energy regeneration slots will actually be trinket slots #9 and #10 (which would have unlocked at higher levels then are currently available), so everyone will effectively gain two free trinket slots from this change. That's all! Now get out there and enjoy the new update! Cheers, - Justin FAQ: Will my trinket odds go down in this update? Not immediately. The balance is such that any old trinkets you had will, at the old max level, increase your odds by at least as much as they did before (with a few exceptions in the case of puzzle piece and quest item trinkets). As you level up, these old trinkets will lose more power, requiring you to purchase new, more powerful trinkets to replace them. Can Flux trinkets be combined? Flux trinkets cannot be combined using the Trinket Combination system at this time. We plan to address this issue in a future update. |
Lvl 81 "Hero to the Downtrodden!"
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- Posted June 15th 2012 at 1:26 PM
Kiki DamnitWell alright! :) I quite liked that you had to remember to change your trinkets to the energy generating ones before closing up for the day... however I was always FORGETTING to do this, so thank you!
Good changes, way to listen to your players! Thanks! |
Lvl 115 "Needs More Energy!"
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- Posted June 15th 2012 at 1:39 PM
Clemondepretty nice changes ... let's see how I can change the wikisite for the trinkets ... tomorrow :D
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Lvl 109 "Vanquisher of Evil!"
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- Posted June 15th 2012 at 2:02 PM
Krystina FrancisAre the golden and silver amulets gone from the game? My gold one is gone...
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Lvl 109 "Vanquisher of Evil!"
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- Posted June 15th 2012 at 2:06 PM
Krystina Francisand now it's back :D
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Lvl 268 "Loves The Developers"
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- Posted June 15th 2012 at 2:27 PM
heppigirlAwesome! And this is why you're the best devs for any game on facebook. ♥
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Lvl 115 "Needs More Energy!"
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- Posted June 15th 2012 at 3:06 PM
ClemondeI am almost ready updating the wiki ... only 2 trinkets are missing for now
Wooden Lucky Coin (Uncommon) and Twig Wand (Rare) if anyone knows the new Odds on these two, I would be very thankful :) |
Lvl 54 "Hero to the Downtrodden!"
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- Posted June 15th 2012 at 4:17 PM
Edward Paul McGeeWooden Lucky Coin increases gold odds rating by 20. 5% at lvl 39
Twig Wand increases mana odds rating by 20. 5% at lvl 39 |
Lvl 318 "Workhorse"
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- Posted June 15th 2012 at 4:45 PM
Wayne Karl PennachiActually Justin I have two questions regarding the FLUX trinkets then. First, I was given to understand that all of the old FLUX trinkets were still available, but I was only getting Gold even though I have not yet gotten all of the FLUX trinkets noted on the wikia. So are the old trinkets actually gone or can they still be acquired. Secondly, will there be new FLUX trinkets after this update or will they be handled differently moving forward?
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Lvl 300 "Expert Bush Whacker"
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- Posted June 15th 2012 at 5:29 PM
Steven Lerchthanks for the update my question is will you move both the sucker i have and the piece i have for the shorter time both or just the energy I am just hoping to speed my time up like it is in bw
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- Posted June 15th 2012 at 6:07 PM
Cindy Heffermanmy problem isn't gold, it's getting gems to buy them
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- Posted June 15th 2012 at 6:51 PM
Clay WillisHey .. What about the maps? It takes forever to wander around from place to place. Thanks.
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Lvl 300 "Nate's Apprentice"
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- Posted June 15th 2012 at 6:55 PM
Claudia Kingsame, plenty of gold but not enough Gems and also, a friend sent me feathers to craft something, what is that all about and where do I find them to send out?
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Lvl 74 "Nate's Apprentice"
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- Posted June 15th 2012 at 9:17 PM
Nate DauerPlenty of Gold? You must not be visiting your ranch at all if you truly have more gold than gems.
I'm not sure what I think of all this yet, but the fact that you guys are at least looking into it is good news in itself. |
Lvl 212 "Power Player"
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- Posted June 15th 2012 at 11:18 PM
Bill BeardThey just upgraded the maps. If you're in a zone and click on the green check mark to the left of where it shows you completion, you can pull up the area map and instantly jump to any puzzle field you've already accessed.
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Lvl 440 "Vanquisher of Evil!"
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- Posted June 16th 2012 at 4:34 AM
Jennifer Sloan LewisI'm leveled out, and the desert is still locked. How do we get in? I also wish you'd make the map better - in BW1, the map is so easy. This one is really difficult to figure out. AND, again, the desert on my game is locked. TY, you guys make the BEST games!
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Lvl 73 "Omnom Nom Nom!"
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- Posted June 16th 2012 at 7:41 AM
Dengke ShaThanks Justin, that's just awesome. Now the game suddenly feels like it has a lot more depth, and now I get excited about upgrading/buying new trinkets because they make a real difference. Reducing the need to swap trinkets around a lot helped heaps too. Cheers for the great work! :D
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Lvl 109 "Vanquisher of Evil!"
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- Posted June 16th 2012 at 7:49 AM
Krystina FrancisI loved this update, too! But things I am wondering about-
What determines when a trinket is suddenly only available through crafting? Is it ever possible to win crafting components? And where did the silver amulet go? |
Lvl 370 "Loves The Developers"
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- Posted June 17th 2012 at 1:22 AM
Jean DavisI got the Ragged Doll Schematic & Crystal Spike Schematic, and it said to take them to the Trinketsmith. Just what exactly are these - crafting components?
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Lvl 113 "Hero to the Downtrodden!"
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- Posted June 17th 2012 at 2:24 AM
Sue WrightAll great changes, but have you thought about the possibility of being able to part exchange our old trinkets for new ones? When we no longer need one, we could take it and sell it back to the trinket master along with less gold or gems than the new one costs?
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