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Infini-whack feature poll! The developer is seeking feedback!
3397 Posts
Link to post - Posted November 2nd 2020 at 11:42 AM
Last Edited November 2nd 2020 at 11:44 AM
Nickshire (CNE Dev)
Hello whackers!

There's always been a contentious discussion about the use of auto-clickers for Bush Whacker 2. The crux being that auto-clickers give some players an unfair advantage when competing in the rankings. Detecting and preventing auto-clickers is difficult and easily avoided, and is often much more work than it is useful.

Our company's other two games are "Idle Games", and auto-clickers are a constant discussion in that genre. What we've done in those games is add official in-game features that function like auto-clickers, to level the playing field. They're easier to use than auto-clickers, we have control over how they function, and they actually add a fun new dimension to the core gameplay. In Crusaders of the Lost Idols they're called "Task Masters", and in Champions of the Forgotten Realms they're called "Familiars", and in both you can unlock multiple of them and drag them onto where you want them to click.

So in that fashion, I've been considering adding an "infinite whack" or something, that would function much like how the auto-clickers do for those that use them. My off-the-cuff design is as follows:

- At a certain level, you can unlock the "Smart Whack" or "Infini-Whack". It would appear next to your Quick/Mana/Power Whacks when you're in a field.
- When you turn this on, you will Mana Whack until you run out of mana, then Quick Whack until you run out of energy, and whenever your Power fills up, you would power whack a random bush. As soon as you have enough resources to do another Mana or Quick Whack, it would do so, so you could continue in this state as long as the game is running.
- You could interrupt it at any time.

Would love to hear your thoughts on this.
1 Post
Link to post - Posted November 2nd 2020 at 11:53 AM
samanthurr
YES!

Also- auto-clicking for the casino games on the island, or higher options for gambling more at a time.

Also should make sure this auto-whacking feature collects the special items that pop up and cost only 5 energy to whack. (Heck even adding that as a feature to the regular power whack would be cool
12 Posts
Link to post - Posted November 2nd 2020 at 11:55 AM
Paul Dabkowski Jr.
sounds good
81 Posts
Link to post - Posted November 2nd 2020 at 11:56 AM
IamGroot
I vote no. Developing strategies to effectively use your mana/power/energy is part of the enjoyment of the game.
8 Posts
Link to post - Posted November 2nd 2020 at 11:56 AM
Ralmap
I love this idea! I don't mind manual click, click, click..but that sure would be a great option to have.
107 Posts
Link to post - Posted November 2nd 2020 at 11:58 AM
Vegan1964
I have to admit that I have never cared much about standings so it wouldn't much matter to me if they are added as long as it doesn't affect game play if they are not used.

The trinket swords sound much more interesting in terms of adding to the gaming experience.

Thanks for continuing to add features to the game!
228 Posts
Link to post - Posted November 2nd 2020 at 12:00 PM
player88
If the complaints are primarily about rankings, any proposed changes will only be effective if you reset the rankings, most likely causing more 'cruxes' (rule of unintended consequences). Seems to be easier to make viewing the rankings as an 'opt in' feature -- you need to actively want to see them. If you can't view the rankings, you can't have heartburn. Those who care opt in; those who don't, don't.
BFG went the entirety of its existence without rankings, if I recall.
49 Posts
Link to post - Posted November 2nd 2020 at 12:03 PM
Last Edited November 2nd 2020 at 4:59 PM
jelab
Love the idea of auto-clicker for everyone.
Does that mean that everyone will will be able to play 24/7 as long as they have infinite mana, power etc....
Will there be any limits on daily game play ? hours,, total points, game time ??
If it's without limits then I don't like it.
12 Posts
Link to post - Posted November 2nd 2020 at 12:06 PM
enzfyr
I agree with IamGroot's reasoning and position. I've been playing for years (originally on BFG) and am not even familiar with the rankings (or care to be, especially if I lose the game within 2 months because I only have the option to play it on a Chromebook).
1839 Posts
Link to post - Posted November 2nd 2020 at 12:06 PM
Flybaby
Ditto tgcougar
228 Posts
Link to post - Posted November 2nd 2020 at 12:11 PM
player88
PS I'll take an "auto fishing pole" if you'll develop one!
1 Post
Link to post - Posted November 2nd 2020 at 12:14 PM
Matthew Labordo
I agree with the Idea
4 Posts
Link to post - Posted November 2nd 2020 at 12:16 PM
Last Edited November 3rd 2020 at 12:11 AM
Hellen
I think the idea is good, but I'd prefer this auto-clicker to be adjustable. E.g. I'm not using powerwhack at all and I wouldn't like the auto-clicker to use it, because it will make Powemagersizing runes absolutely useless.
I support the idea to make it available at the Flux only. So to say an infinite auto-clicker for infinite puzzles.
691 Posts
Link to post - Posted November 2nd 2020 at 12:17 PM
jpl77
100 yes, level the playing field. and yes please keep the option to have mana whack to power whack, then go to quick whack and then back to mana whack to keep the infinite loop. PLUS you will have to deal with all the in game pop ups. ALSO add in the ability to autowhack/mana whack all the spawning quest items. You can't let the game hang on quests.

also 100 auto fishing, lol.
1839 Posts
Link to post - Posted November 2nd 2020 at 12:18 PM
Flybaby
I would be happy if this included an auto for fishing and casino. would save a lot of clicking time.

Helpful also if someone has limitations such as arthritis and can't click for long periods.
1839 Posts
Link to post - Posted November 2nd 2020 at 12:20 PM
Flybaby
Nick, how is it working out for the other 2 games you mentioned? Any feedback from those players?
4 Posts
Link to post - Posted November 2nd 2020 at 12:25 PM
Daniel
I'd take the auto-fishing :)
25 Posts
Link to post - Posted November 2nd 2020 at 12:27 PM
Last Edited November 2nd 2020 at 12:30 PM
Karen Jones (Elionna)
I LOVE the Taskmasters in Crusaders, so I also really like the idea of a Smart whack or inifini-whack feature in BW2, but I would like the ability to choose whether to have it use JUST mana, or JUST energy, or both, as well as whether or not to use power. Much like how you can position your individual Taskmaster to only click one certain thing, and having multiple taskmasters means you can auto-click multiple things, but only the certain things that you select.

One issue I can see is that it could negate the ability to use any of the trinkets/runes that are of the "convert excess X to Y" type.

Personally, right now I have a bunch of boosts that convert "excess" power to mana (I tend to generally use a lot of mana whacking), so to have my power automatically used when I am trying to make use of the "convert excess X to Y" would essentially make those items useless.

And, as mentioned by samanthurr above, including the click-only special/quest items (sometimes for 5 energy, sometimes for more) in the quick whack, mana whack, or smart whack, would be extremely helpful as well.

Thank you for asking for our input on this potential new feature! Looking forward to seeing what you come up with!

OOOH!! And what Flybaby said - fishing and casino too!
1 Post
Link to post - Posted November 2nd 2020 at 12:32 PM
AlreadyTaken
Hi Nick!
I play Cotli and the taskmasters are really useful.
It is a great idea to put something similar in bush whacker 2. If possible, different functions, like infinity-whack, auto-gathercrops, auto-fishing.
8 Posts
Link to post - Posted November 2nd 2020 at 12:37 PM
fox.notinsox
I'm not too sure about using up MANA first ... would rather Energy and or Call-a-Friend first. Me, not too interested in rankings, but would like an auto-fishing or auto-gambling function