Lvl 260 "Expert Bush Whacker"

307 Posts

I've noticed that when you use a power whack, Almost every time you get nothing.

68 Posts

I've also noticed that it seems I get nothing the majority of the time that I use power to whack a critter; probably about 75% of the time approximately (and I'm only needing at the moment to keep track of a couple of dozen wins to this point, rather than thousands :P).

Lvl 140 "Omnom Nom Nom!"

132 Posts

Thanks guys!

Lvl 74 "Nate's Apprentice"

741 Posts

If you win 1 power, and use it, it does nothing (because 1 x anything = 1 anything). That said, you need at least 2 power for a power-whack to be useful.

1 power x 1 power = 1 power (unhelpful)
+2 power x +2 power = +4 power (helpful)

In BW1, only level 1 bushes dropped the 1-power vials. Level 1 bushes were only in the tutorial and 4 other zones in-game. That said, the player did not have the potential to run into this problem for very long. The issue of unhelpful dividing with power-whacks on monsters stuck around a little bit longer, arguably until the player reached the island for the first time, but it didn't happen very often so it too went largely unnoticed.

Exponential gains make for a nice system, but at the earliest stages and the later stages, issues can arise (no gains and excessive gains). With the "cracked vial" update, the "excessive gain" issue has become largely eliminated from BW1, and as I mentioned, "no gain" issues were almost non-existant since they were a problem isolated to only 4 areas in-game.


However...


In BW2, 1-power vials are the most common type by far, and thus while the "excessive gain" issue is virtually non-existant, the "no gain" issue is quite common.

If you use a power-whack on a bush and gain power from it, you will only gain the exact amount of power you used back. Meaning that, really, all you did was spend energy and gain experience. In fact, this is actually less than what they would've gained had they simply used a "normal" whack on the bush.

This needs to be changed, as it makes power almost pointless.


Option 1:

Add 1 to every power-whack when used.

That is:
When a x1 power whack is used, it will actually act as a x2 multiplier.
When a x2 power whack is used, it will actually act as a x3 multiplier.
When a x3 power whack is used, it will actually act as a x4 multiplier.
etc.

This way, should the player get power from their power-whack, they at least end up with 1 more power than they had before. It also makes x1 multipliers useful.


Option 2:

Make the 1-power vials into 2-power vials.
Make the 2-power vials into 3-power vials.

This ensures that the player will never have a useless x1 multiplier, as well as ensuring that if the player gets power from a power-whack they will at least get more power.

This way power can always result in a profit, assuming they don't get "nothing".

Lvl 307 "Revolutionary"

39 Posts

Slowly, but surely, the larger vials are getting more common, Marleen, so the winnings from powerwhacks are getting more valuable.

Lvl 128 "Omnom Nom Nom!"

26 Posts

Dear David (DJ Arts),

I got multiple puzzle pieces and quest items with power whack. However, Almost 99% of the time when I use it, I get NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Be it a critter or a bush. Needs to be fixed and asap! This is getting ridiculous

Lvl 137 "Expert Bush Whacker"

39 Posts

What I don't understand when it comes to the power part is that sometimes I whack a critter, and I get unmultiplied coins but have nothing x12 (or whatever). If the whack on the critter is multiplied, shouldn't everything it drops be?

Lvl 137 "Expert Bush Whacker"

39 Posts

No, I mean only like 3 coins coming out and then nothing being multiplied by 12 and it being from the same thing (i.e. a bee)

Lvl 137 "Expert Bush Whacker"

39 Posts

Okie doke :)