Howdy there.

I started playing COTLI a few years ago because it was recommended by some article on the internet as one of the best idle games of all time. In fact, if you google "Best Idle games of all time" there COTLI is on the first link.

Now...I get that you can't shut COTLI down and make progress. I bought a gaming laptop just for COTLI so that wherever I go, COTLI is making progress.

But in essence, COTLI has always been an idle game. Reset a world, let it run. Come back later, reset and get a little further. It's the premise of idle games. And I've played so many of them to the extreme over the years. That's how I found COTLI in fact; I think I'd just gotten Adventure Capitalist or Realm Grinder to some "there is no point anymore" stage, and went hunting for a new game.

CNE, you probably know me as Dashofpepper from the ticket system. I buy everything. Obviously love CNE and this game. THe first couple of dungeon seasons were, "Can I use these 15 runs per week" which led to "I need to buy a dedicated gaming laptop to reduce lag."

Reward scaling has changed, and now it's "I need to run 7-9 sprints per day to achieve reward X." That's not cool bros. Idling is supposed to be, "Do a thing, go as long as you can." Get stuff, go longer.

CNE is abandoning the basic principle of an idle game. If you don't want this to be an idle game ... say so. I'll write letters to all the websites and news places that report this as one of the greatest idle games in history and update them on what CNE is doing these days, so people like me don't come here, sink thousands of dollars into the greatest idle game ever, then find out that it's still in beta mode, and not an idle game anymore.

Help me out here. Is this new trend a glitch in the matrix, or are you pushing for this to be an active game?

Pick one.

Kind of agree with Cunchi, but only somewhat. Spamming dungeon runs in a day kinda defeats the purpose of an idle game, but you also don't HAVE to do that. For hardcore players that want to get all the things and be hyper-efficient, then sure, it is necessary, but the term "hardcore idle game player" seems a bit oxymoronic. If you're buying a dedicated gaming PC *JUST* for an idle game, how "idle" can you really be? There are players who are fine not getting absolutely everything, allowing the game to run for extended periods of time to just get whatever they get when they come check again. Casual players like that are playing an idle game. Dedicated, invested players have given up the idea of the game being a TRULY "idle" game by opting to put a bunch of effort into it. Both mindsets are valid, but if you want to be hyper-invested in an idle game, then don't complain that the game is no longer effortless and non-committal.

Despite that, though, there is a certain level of inactivity that is expected from an idle game, commitment or not. Hence the complaints that linear rewards favored short runs, meaning babysitting the game a lot to be efficient. Even if you're NOT going for max dungeon level, simply knowing that you're wasting time reaching your max area would be enough to incite a player to more active playing, which can be annoying. The devs seem to agree, or at least understand the complaints, and have changed the rewards scaling for dungeons back to being non-linear so that full runs are still viable. Now, an overnight run isn't 80% wasted time. Short runs might still be SLIGHTLY better, but the difference isn't so massive that a full run feels like wasted time anymore.