Hello guys!

I come here to suggest a change in the way the descriptions of effects are.

Right now it is not clear if the effect is additive or multiplicative and to find out you need make many tests instead of just reading and being able to realize that.

This is a problem that may let you confuse(principally new players) and conduct you to bad decisions, like craft/upgrade a legendary just to realize it don't work the way you think.

I, for exemple, just realized today that Bubba "Splish Splash" is additive and not multiplicative.

Another exemple:

Santa: "increase all gold found by 37,5% for each crusader in the column in front of RoboSanta" (MULTIPLICATIVE)

Jack: "increase all gold found by 20% for each enemy attacking jack"
(ADDITIVE)

I can't see any difference between jack and santa considering only the text.

My suggestion is to either adopt a unified word system like "...For each..." always mean multiplicative and "....Multiplied by the number of..." always mean additive or to add in the end of every effect description the word (ADDITIVE) or (MULTIPLICATIVE).

Thanks for reading!

Draigos

Could any dev tell me why the description was made this way?

You started like this and to change everything would take a lot of time and there are more priority things?

Are you already working on fixing the texts and will they be release in future?

Do you not see a problem in texts at all?

I really would like to see your point of view since it seems a problem so annoying and easy to solve for me.

Legendary item levels who have different levels by themselves which multiply values by at least two? The next patch will balance legendary items?

Seriously, the balance patch for upcoming T4 talents will make all effects of Legendary items additive, and legendary item levels should be totally different levels by themselves which multiply values by at least two. This would be my suggestion.

I repeat that I believe that it can make all effects of legendary items additive as well as item levels different levels while multiplying values by at least two.

Sorry for the delay!

@Andreas:

Maybe the way I said it made me sound like I was angry(since english is not my mother tongue and i do not master it very well), but this was not the case.

My intention was really just to know what they think about the subject: relevant, irrelevant, is already being done(not because i said, but because it could already be in their plan).

> Why don't you request the CEO of CNE to answer your posts? You know, since 'the devs' most likely don't have community support in their job description?

Actually I do not understand much about the differences between the positions / hierarchy (like ceo x dev - I'm not even sure that I know what dev/ceo means exactly). My intention was to understand why the current system is the way it is.

>Especially since you assume your suggestion is not only read, but validated, planned and half way implemented already.

That was not my intention.

>>>>> You started like this and to change everything would take a lot of time and there are more priority things? (ME)

>Most likely a big yes. Following crafting, players want new talents. Events are a reoccuring thing, blocking developing time. And just as a hint: The web version of Crusaders of the Lost Idols is supported by one Developer (so, you don't really need to check their website anymore ... ). Priorities are set for him and so are the slots of times he can work on different stuff. (YOU)

In fact, maybe fixing all the texts is something that takes time and is more difficult than I initially imagined. But if they agree that the current system of description can be improved then this improvement is something that can begin to be adopted from now on (since new crusaders are always being created and therefore new texts) and in the future, when there is time, to be implemented in the old texts.

>>>>> Do you not see a problem in texts at all? (ME)

>Probably 'No, since we either know which buffs are multiplicative vs. additive, or we enjoy the game even without it'. But it's more likely that working or playing the game for 1.5 years gave quite some experience.(YOU)

Well Andreas, justify the use of equal expressions to refer to different effects saying that the playing time gives you experience is not reasonable. First because, assuming a new crusader/ability is launched, you will not be able to tell if it's M or A before you have access to it and take a test (which in most cases would require you to spend some resources). Second, mathematically speaking, there are expressions that mean multiplication and others addition and mixing them is a mistake. Third, even if you were right, you would exclude new players who does not have extensive knowledge of the game. And fourth (and to me the biggest problem) this makes the game language inconsistent with itself, without standard.

For me, although not apocalyptic, it is basic to know whether an effect is M or A, since a good part of the game is about numbers. Not knowing about M or A for me is similar(just less worse) to not knowing about the bonus% of an effect.

Think of how it would be if in all effects there were two numbers for the bonus with only one being true. Like: "increase the dps of all crusaders for 40% OR 60%". This is exactly what is happening with M OR A.

Can be tricky to correct / standardize all existing texts, but it is simple to prevent this inconsistency from spreading to new content: just create a pattern to follow when writing the texts.


Thank you for reply with your vision!

Cheers!

Draigos