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- Posted February 2nd 2016 at 7:35 PM
IrrimnSo, I just recently did the 'Waiting for Halftime' run and I thought it was GREAT because I didn't have to go through ~200 levels for things to get interesting. It made me think, why isn't there a 'hardmode' that basically does the exact same thing? That is, ramp up the speed at which the game becomes difficult? I feel like this really ought to be a thing, especially now with the recent expansion of talents. Who's with me?
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- Posted February 3rd 2016 at 2:22 AM
TeschioI don't agree, for the simple reason that it will make farming idols much, much faster (and I mean 4-5 times faster than now).
I am in favor of a talent that lets you skip the first X levels, but you would have to buy it with idols, so it would be a judgement call. |
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- Posted February 3rd 2016 at 5:30 AM
Kanki KeijoLast Edited February 3rd 2016 at 5:30 AM I agree completely with Irrimn. Hardmode should be like Waiting for halftime or even harder.
Idea is that you can't reach Nate and reset, unless you have lot of idols, like at least 15k. |
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- Posted February 3rd 2016 at 7:26 AM
TeschioKanki, the fact that you think 15k idols are "a lot" makes it pretty clear that you are quite new to the game. With a "hardmode" like that people, will farm at 4-5 times the rate they do now, which is pretty insane.
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- Posted February 3rd 2016 at 11:51 AM
AmoonWell according to some of Erika/Alyniana's posts, BOTH of those are in the plans: faster idol gain methods and harder objectives.
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- Posted February 3rd 2016 at 12:18 PM
Kanki KeijoLast Edited February 3rd 2016 at 12:19 PM Well, Teschio. I disagree. When you start playing this game, it takes at least 2 months to gather your first 15k idols. You need 300k idols to maximize current talents. At least 4-5 times faster idol farming is needed. Nothing insane about it.
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- Posted February 3rd 2016 at 1:01 PM
Raymondmy own belief is that if you want to max out the talents (something that nobody is holding a gun to your head to do) then you have to work for it. If that work entails letting the game idle for 2 hours to get to your wall every reset then so be it. I love being able to go away and watch TV or something.
Making it easy for the highest players to advance even faster is not fair t everyone else. |
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- Posted February 3rd 2016 at 1:34 PM
Kanki KeijoLast Edited February 3rd 2016 at 1:56 PM What a selfish man you are, Raymond. Because you want only idle? Everyone else should play idle style too? If other players want to play the game active, it's somehow unfair to you? lol
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- Posted February 3rd 2016 at 6:33 PM
TeschioYou can't expect to max all talents. They are not designed for that. You can max some, maybe, but not all. And this is a GOOD thing, otherwise having nothing to look forward to means that people will just stop playing. You want to max all talents in 6 months? Then what?
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- Posted February 5th 2016 at 3:51 AM
TsukasaWM"my own belief is that if you want to max out the talents (something that nobody is holding a gun to your head to do) then you have to work for it. If that work entails letting the game idle for 2 hours to get to your wall every reset then so be it. I love being able to go away and watch TV or something.
Making it easy for the highest players to advance even faster is not fair t everyone else." I agree, but honestly, don't bother. These forums are extremely anti-casual player. You're better off using the kongregate forums or subreddit for these opinions. |
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- Posted February 7th 2016 at 2:16 AM
IrrimnI think a lot of people are ultimately forgetting this is a SINGLE-PLAYER GAME. How does it impact your ability to play and enjoy the game if other people want to be able to play the game more actively? It shouldn't. If it does, you probably have some personal problems to work through because you're one of those people that has to 'be the best' at a SINGLE-PLAYER GAME.
It's not even as though I'm talking about a mode that wont benefit 95% of the playbase. Who cares if people that have 30k idols will be able to farm faster? So will people that only have 1000 idols. And ultimately it is just doing the same over-and-over again for little to no reward (which is a mechanic featured in 99% of idle games), so if it makes the game MORE enjoyable then why is it even a problem? |
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- Posted February 7th 2016 at 3:59 AM
TeschioIrrimm, the reason why I am against a mode that lets you farm idols incredibly fast is that you risk to be able to max out all the talents. And this is a BAD thing, because with nothing to look forward to, you lose interest in the game. At least I know I would.
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- Posted February 7th 2016 at 7:22 AM
thedudeThat is a point Teschio, except that, according to the devs, they are already thinking about ways to let us farm idols faster. So they obviously don't share your concern.
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- Posted February 7th 2016 at 7:35 AM
TeschioThey will also introduce more talents in the future, they already said that. But it will come a point when you reach a saturation. The question is wether this point will be reached in 1 year or in 5...
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- Posted February 7th 2016 at 7:49 AM
thedudeAll I am saying is that, regardless of how you feel about it, there will soon be a way to farm idols faster. In that regard, replying to a thread about ways to do so with "they shouldn't" is a waste of electrons.
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- Posted February 7th 2016 at 9:05 AM
TeschioI didn't say "they shouldn't". I said that THIS idea is a bad one. I am ok with an increase in idols, but not by a factor of 5. It's not a question of wether or not it should be done, but of the magnitude of the increased gain. +50% is fine, +500% isn't.
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- Posted February 7th 2016 at 1:48 PM
SupervisedI don't see a huge problem with farming idols 5 times faster. It would still take months or years for serious players to max out the talents.
I am not worried about what's next after that because this is an incremental type game, the devs could always come up with more challenging objectives, which is as simple as changing a few numbers in the code. |
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- Posted February 10th 2016 at 10:43 PM
IrrimnWell, they basically added this to the game when they gave us the "Slow Descent" objective. Since you have to have a TON of idols to complete this objective you can pretty much just use this as a 'hardmode' farming method. Admittedly you're locked to only using the diamond formation which doesn't benefit some crusaders as much as it does others. Despite this, I think it still ought to be a more active way of farming idols that rewards more idols, faster than usual.
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