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The Mystery of the Creepy Tower
Lvl 440 "Other Peoples Problem Solver!"
5565 Posts
Link to post - Posted August 11th 2013 at 5:30 PM
Raymond
everyone who has actually tried it has already solved it. just try. don't dismiss it because you think its hard. 5x5 is easier then 4x4 if you have ever played it in real life or in bw1, and that's actually easier then 3x3 which counterintuitively is the hardest.
but if you must, google is good, google is great, thank google for being on the plate.
the solver people without a clue used for bw1 was:
http://www.brian-borowski.com/Software/Puzzle
and I'll ruin it for everyone, one that solves any size even rectangular, but not in the minimum number of moves is:
http://www.jaapsch.net/puzzles/fifteen.htm

but anyone who uses anything like this for so simple a puzzle is... I can't politely say...
258 Posts
Link to post - Posted August 11th 2013 at 5:53 PM
Cindy Hefferman
Just finished it Raymond,,,seems my puzzle glitched..all squares were #24...someone told me their puzzle had different numbers, so I left and came back in..fixed it
Post by Heather Collings deleted August 12th 2013 at 12:16 AM
56 Posts
Link to post - Posted August 12th 2013 at 7:55 AM
Tina
i just did the puzzle and left i dont do sliders.im not smart enogh for dang puzzles. my brain freezes
Lvl 80 "Hero to the Downtrodden!"
426 Posts
Link to post - Posted August 12th 2013 at 8:27 AM
Ken Layden
Thank you everyone for your feedback about the slider puzzle. It means a lot to us that you guys let us know when you enjoy something or find it too hard.
Lvl 400 "Professional Monster Hunter"
23 Posts
Link to post - Posted August 12th 2013 at 10:21 AM
Bonnie MacDougall
BW1 had the option to use bush bucks to solve them. I would SO happily do that.
56 Posts
Link to post - Posted August 12th 2013 at 2:37 PM
Tina
ken for some of us it is too hard...
6 Posts
Link to post - Posted August 12th 2013 at 6:18 PM
Darcy Henslin Duchatschek
I love this game, but I will probably stop playing it if I can't solve this slider puzzle. I just am not very good at these kind of puzzles.
Lvl 440 "Other Peoples Problem Solver!"
5565 Posts
Link to post - Posted August 12th 2013 at 7:36 PM
Raymond
OK, this is ridiculous.
Can't all you people actually read this whole topic?
The solution is right here in front of you if you just read it.
But perhaps that too is an indication of something you already display a complete lack of.
I'm sorry but I have to say this. Leave the game because it's too hard for you, not just the slider, but everything else too.
56 Posts
Link to post - Posted August 12th 2013 at 9:45 PM
Tina
raymond must u be so mean? geezzz anyways. some people just can not get puzzles. u dont have to be so mean and anti ignorant do u...
2 Posts
Link to post - Posted August 13th 2013 at 12:08 AM
Lindsay Swales
I hate this type of puzzle, alway shave since being a kid and you got one of the cheap ones in a party bag. I can't even solve the small one, so no hope in me completing this.


Oh and Raymond, I don't think you are being very nice at all (although I'm sure that's your point!) Just because a few of us are hating this type of puzzle doesn't mean we are stupid, we just don't like them! Plus, why should we leave the game? What's annoyed you so much that you feel the need to tell people to leave?
336 Posts
Link to post - Posted August 13th 2013 at 2:10 AM
Jo Helmers
RUDE!
336 Posts
Link to post - Posted August 13th 2013 at 2:14 AM
Jo Helmers
That comment is downright horrible and rude, how dare you judge people's ability. Not everyone in this world has a brain that can cope with problems like this puzzle. What about player's that may have a disability, ever thought of that?
I am disgusted that you feel the need to say such horrible things Raymond.

AND Ken Layden, this is precisely why i asked that we be able to block people on this forum.
735 Posts
Link to post - Posted August 13th 2013 at 3:34 AM
jpl77
While Raymond may have posted comments that are not appropriate and those comments certainly have offended some people, he made one valid point.

That point was that far too many have come to the forum just to complain without reading the actual thread they are complaining about.

Now, I do not condone his actions, but Ray did post some helpful tips and some useful links. Anyone could have done a Google search and filtered through the results to find info on how to solve these sliders. He took the effort to look for, find, verify that info and posted it here to help.

My sum up; stay friendly in the forums, lay off the insults, but read and search the forums, test out the tips people post. Also, stop posting duplicate threads.

Have a great whacking day.
Lvl 440 "Crazy Cat Lover"
670 Posts
Link to post - Posted August 13th 2013 at 3:57 AM
Last Edited August 13th 2013 at 4:07 AM
DestKitteh
Raymond, while that is a great help, it's not set up to solve a 24 piece. It's highest is 15.

Edit: I found http://analogbit.com/software/puzzletools to be helpful, if you don't mind coloured blocks, not numbered blocks. It has a step by step guide too.
Lvl 440 "Other Peoples Problem Solver!"
5565 Posts
Link to post - Posted August 13th 2013 at 7:13 AM
Raymond
I am saying that people are saying they can't do it. In many cases I bet they don't even try.
But I posted a link to an online program that will solve any size slider puzzle for you.
But people asking for help here don't even read the answers here?
That refusal to actually read this topic, is similar to that refusal to even try the slider itself because of perceived hardness, and actually the refusal to even read that there is a solution DOES prove ones IQ or lack of one.

now as to the solution posted.
1. Perhaps I'm a little optimistic that people can understand that that's a url.
2. A url is a web page and one has to open a browser and go to that url.
3. And that one has to read that whole page, don't just ignore it because it is unfortunately named 15.
4. And see that within that page is a link to the solver, nothing to download like other help others are providing.
5. And when the solver is there one has to realize that is doesn't have ESP and can't know what size puzzle you are doing so you have to figure out how to change the size.
6. It also doesn't have ESP in knowing what your totally random position is so you have to figure out how to rnter your situation.
7. Then you have to figure out how to use it to solve your game.

There are only about 5 or 6 buttons, but apparently you have to be a rocket scientist to figure out what they do.

here's an idea, make a 10x10 one, randomize it, press the play button and even though thats too fast you still can see and maybe even learn how to do these.

Am I being over the top. you bet. and I said it in the last post, this is ridiculous.
Lvl 440 "Other Peoples Problem Solver!"
5565 Posts
Link to post - Posted August 13th 2013 at 7:16 AM
Raymond
sorry Destiny, but the one I posted that can do any size can do any size 2x2 to 10x10, right there on its web site it says that. Follow the steps I outline above.
Lvl 371 "Finder-outer"
579 Posts
Link to post - Posted August 13th 2013 at 8:49 AM
Ruth Orozco
Raymond--take a pill. Stop being such an egotistical, self-important tool and maybe people will read your posts. As it is, we never know when you will turn on people and remind us how you view humanity. Lack of either self-confidence or desire for a challenge when doing puzzles has nothing to do with a person's IQ. Yes, yes, we all know how smart you are and how your programming skills leave the developers in the dust. It's just that no one cares.
I personally am very intelligent and I balk at some puzzles. Give me word games or games that use spatial reasoning and I excel; logic puzzles, I crash and burn (hate that stupid "Tommy is sitting next to Mary, who is not eating roast beef"). I managed the small slider easily, but am dreading the larger one. The main reason is that it takes so long to complete--even with the solution links you and Jason (always polite, thank you) posted, they are a pain.
Sometimes people are just not good at things (or they don't think they are) that others love to do --it doesn't mean they aren't smart and even if they aren't, it's NONE of your BUSINESS!! This forum is not called "Ask Raymond and Get Insulted" and your impression of Simon Cowell is not appreciated!
I have been tolerating (and occasionally defending) you since the beginning of BW1 and I am done. Now I am really hoping that you get banned. Except for your rare piece of humor or occasionally helpful comments, I don't think you would be missed.
2 Posts
Link to post - Posted August 13th 2013 at 8:54 AM
Lindsay Swales
I've tried and tried and tried now and the puzzle is even more mixed up! No hope here, as I said earlier, I hate these puzzles and always have x
Lvl 440 "Other Peoples Problem Solver!"
5565 Posts
Link to post - Posted August 13th 2013 at 9:03 AM
Raymond
It is possible that some people have all pieces with the digit 24 on them and 1 space. First mention was on this page but possibly others earlier saw that and just said they hate slider puzzles. Refresh, reload, realize that it can't be that way, its supposed to be solvable. All 24's does have 1 solved position, but it would take longer then millions of our universe to do it, even an 8 puzzle with all 8's would take forever. And actually if the programmers here did the solve checker anything like they did in bw1, there are 4 solved positions.

Ken, I know I said otherwise, but please put a 11x11 or bigger slider puzzle in Amicus with a single large one-time reward, but the puzzle being repeatable afterwards for no reward. And please do not have a bush bucks or fb credits buy-in, except perhaps $1,000 or more, I'm sure you might get a few takers. 11 since there is no online 'solver' for that. Or program a triangular or hexagonal version as I don't think there are any solvers other then ones I have programmed in the 1980's. But if on Amicus please have a Pet exclusion avoidance zone (and other players too) around it. And if you do have another slider puzzle, please please program it so that you can move more then 1 piece in the row or column of the hole, real sliders allow you to do that. And counting the number of moves would be nice, making the total number a part of the Achievement would be cool.

How about for the next flux or some puzzle before, to have all black pieces on an all black field within and outside the puzzle. Or equally ll white. I DO actually solve jigsaw puzzles with all pieces upside down with my nieces and nephew.

And people, I have to say I learned something here. Watching the 10x10 puzzle in my link play over the course of a few minutes I noticed a half dozen things and said, how do they do that. Since I was a kid I always used what I think Jason coined in bw1, 'snakes' to get the last piece in any row, that sometimes makes it hard to do a 4x4 in under 100 moves. You still actually have to do that to get the last row done without changing the next to last row. But all other rows can have a shorter solution.