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What was the point in introducing Enchantment point sharing?

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Link to post - Posted November 14th 2015 at 5:38 AM
wcli456
it's also not particularly difficult to see, the devs are future proofing themselves to the problem. they are saying - right now there may not be a need for this button, but in the future when people get more idols => who knows. so just deal with this problem once and for all.

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Link to post - Posted November 14th 2015 at 7:45 AM
Last Edited November 14th 2015 at 7:48 AM
KeySer87
Sarumaru:
This screenshot is for you:
http://imgur.com/ZkykzKB

Before the future, that number was double, noone would ever enjoy open all does chest 1 by 1...

and now on topic. Since in the future the sharng will be 100%, the event crusader would have a chance. But that doesn't matter right now, sinet there is no DPS event crusader out there, and no, wendy is not a DPS, a DPS shouldn't need 20 mobs on screen to be equal to a real dps.

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Link to post - Posted November 14th 2015 at 1:11 PM
Last Edited November 14th 2015 at 3:02 PM
Sarumaru
@wcli456

"@Sarumaru: 'It seem that die-hard fanboys will go to any length to defend a useless idea.'"
*'because why not? just let the game run. until 100 chests need opening. it's plenty quick.'
*' No harm done, no pressure to use it, it's just there.'
*'Timed objectives mostly. Like Carnival has an achievement for RESETTING on freeplay carnival within I think an hour? Or for "Get me out of here" on the 2nd campaign(80 minutes to hit 150 and reset)'

'I don't understand why you have such a vengeful attitude for the button. it is harmless. it doesn't take up a huge part of the screen. it just sits there innocuously.'
So when I point out that having a button a majority of the players does not use is vengeful attitude? I guess you think the button kill my pet dog or something so I need to avenge. Good to know you have a deep understanding of the situation.

Most of the people and you in here seem to miss this point.
'Developers should listen and carefully filter out certain request. Like on reddit a player request the mass open chest button of 5/25/100...'

@KeySer87
I'm proud of you for having that many chest, would you like a cookie?

@TsukasaWM
It seem that most people do not care that you go off topic when you personally come here to call me names, I wonder if they'll call me a troll for going off topic. You posting two links and claim it is evidence for me trolling. Then I say I'm not a troll, you say I'm a troll, see this doesn't work and just go in circle. You should've put more effort in providing evidences so its convincing. Here is some evidence for you.

'I'm literally loling with Saru's pathetic comebacks'
This seem trolly to me, being the white knight that you are, why haven't you taken action against Kenshin the troll? Any chance you have a relationship with Kenshin, so when he pick a fight, you battle for him? Again, you need to put more effort in proving evidences.

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Link to post - Posted November 14th 2015 at 3:26 PM
TsukasaWM
http://i.imgur.com/skIHksb.gif

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Link to post - Posted November 14th 2015 at 3:46 PM
kruch
It might be useless to you, but it was one of the most requested features. Almost everyone I talked to wanted a mass chest opening button. It wasn't just some random request on reddit, every time the dev showed up in chat, at least 2-3 people would ask them to have a multi chest open button.

Also let me explain how it was useful for me just today.

I was doing "Witches and Wizards" and the quest was get to floor 300 on rocket(idk what to call it) formation. At floor 180ish I opened single chest to speed up my run. At around 200ish I started to use the 5 chest button since that how many it would take me to get 25 lvls. At around 240ish, I used the 25 chest button. A 280 I was using the 100 chest button. In total I used about 400-500 chest for that run and the button was very useful.

Also the devs were implementing a multi chest opening button anyway, so they added a 100 chest button for those of us who wanted it. It was a simple thing to included and made lots of ppl happy, and no one unhappy(except you apparently).

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Link to post - Posted November 14th 2015 at 3:50 PM
Sarumaru
' At floor 180ish I opened single chest to speed up my run.'
Cool, sound that that 1 chest button is handy.

'A 280 I was using the 100 chest button. In total I used about 400-500 chest for that run and the button was very useful.'
A bit wasteful on the chest, most people would say you need more idols.

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Link to post - Posted November 14th 2015 at 3:55 PM
Last Edited November 14th 2015 at 4:00 PM
Kenshin
Same here kruch. I'm sitting at ~800 chests, and by the looks of it I'm gonna use a few hundred to break the later walls. Easier to spend chests than farm (way) more idols. I'm currently at 9k idols and seems like i'd need at least 15k to finish the objective with the 300 levels in the rocket formation.

So, spending chests now using the x100 button saves me both time from farming idols and gives me the objective's rewards faster. Not to mention the trinkets and EPs I'm gonna get. Win-win, happy face, yay for the button!

Anyway, seems like this thread derailed as well, so...meh. No point in talking about the button anymore, it's there for anyone that wants to use it. It comes in handy to some, not to all, thankfully it's not mandatory to use.

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Link to post - Posted November 14th 2015 at 4:04 PM
kruch
Sarumaru, I have over 2k chest saved up, partly because I was too lazy to open them, but mainly so that I can blow them on late game objectives like this. Most high idol count players also do the same, although maybe not to the extend I do. It's actually pretty GOOD idea to have a a few hundred chest saved up to use for the gold you can get in them.

And before those who say, you're missing out on the trinkets/items inside those chest, I know, but even with 2000 chest, it might give me a 25% dps and gold boost since I already have so many trinkets.

Also I have over 20k idols, so farming for a few runs wouldn't really make a difference. I wanted to complete 300 so I could see how 350 Rabbit Hole worked.

Different people play the game differently. So just because in your opinion, a feature is useless to you, does not mean the majority or even a minority of players would what it remove.

PS: Still have 1800 chest left over...

44 Posts
Link to post - Posted November 14th 2015 at 4:16 PM
Sarumaru
kruch,' I have suggested an improvement, 1 and 5 chest would be free'
Are you trying to say quick open 1 and 5 chest is useful?

'So just because in your opinion, a feature is useless to you, does not mean the majority or even a minority of players would what it remove.'
Right, just because in your opinion a feature is useful to you, does not mean the majority of the players would use the button. You and wdi456 both seem to think that I wanted the button remove...

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Link to post - Posted November 14th 2015 at 4:41 PM
kruch
Sarumaru, less so that you want it removed, and more so that you want it not to be added in the first place, since in your post you complained about them added it. Then you went on to tell us in your next post how its never usefu. A few people tell you specifically how it is useful for them in the next few post. You seem wholly against the idea of 100 chest button. It's fine for you to say its useless but please don't yell at others when we tell you how it's useful for us.

I have no problem with you suggesting that 1 and 5 chest opening should be free and 25 and 100 should cost idols. But the devs decided to make the 5 chest included in the cost, although they might change?

You could/should start a thread that states, Quick Opening of 1 chest should be implemented, and I don't think many people would disagree with you.

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Link to post - Posted November 14th 2015 at 5:05 PM
Sarumaru
'Sarumaru, less so that you want it removed, and more so that you want it not to be added in the first place'
Again, you are 'putting words' in my mouth, please give evidence that I want the 100x button remove or 'not added in the first place'

'A few people tell you specifically how it is useful for them in the next few post.'
I'm suppose to assume they are correct no matter how absurd it may sound right? There is no way people would make stuff and post them on the internet, right? Like these posts.
*'because why not? just let the game run. until 100 chests need opening. it's plenty quick.'
*'Timed objectives mostly. Like Carnival has an achievement for RESETTING on freeplay carnival within I think an hour? Or for "Get me out of here" on the 2nd campaign(80 minutes to hit 150 and reset)'

'It's fine for you to say its useless but please don't yell at others when we tell you how it's useful for us.'
I didn't realize that posting statements and asking questions is yelling. Usually on the internet people capitalize the whole sentence to express loud tone like yelling. I am sorry if I have triggered you with my yelling. Since statements and questions are yelling and you do not like it, my advice is please avoid as much as possible.

I'm glad we agree that quick open 1 chest is a good idea.

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Link to post - Posted November 14th 2015 at 5:14 PM
Last Edited November 14th 2015 at 5:21 PM
kruch
"Like on reddit a player request the mass open chest button of 5/25/100, it's good that the developers implemented the feature but but to open 100 chest is a bit absurd and something is wrong if you need to open this many chest at once. At this point there are no difference whether this useless feature is in the game or removed" - Sarumaru

Also the examples people gave are things they did. Why is it you get to decided if its absurd or not? Explain to me how my example was absurd? I needed to open chest for gold to finish an objective.

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Link to post - Posted November 14th 2015 at 5:19 PM
TsukasaWM
I'm amazed people are still taking a obvious troll so seriously.

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Link to post - Posted November 14th 2015 at 5:25 PM
Last Edited November 14th 2015 at 5:33 PM
Sarumaru
I tried to explain why in my posts, maybe you should try to read. But wait, don't read, you'll just think I'm yelling.

'Explain to me how my example was absurd? I needed to open chest for gold to finish an objective.'
I do not remember saying your example is absurd, this is the third time you tried to put words into my mouth.

@TsukasaWM
Did you forget to use your brain again? You made a claim, assume and expect people to believe it is true. I thought I gave you advice on how to make a better post.

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Link to post - Posted November 14th 2015 at 5:35 PM
kruch
"I'm suppose to assume they are correct no matter how absurd it may sound right?" Sarumaru

That implied the examples are absurd.

Anyway, I don't have time to play this semantics game with you again, the 100 chest button is useful for some ppl, with valid examples so lets just leave it at that.

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Link to post - Posted November 14th 2015 at 5:45 PM
Sarumaru
Cool, the word absurd is invisible in my reply addressing your example.

You are right, not all of the examples are absurd but it is interesting how you ignored my post addressing your example.

'Anyway, I don't have time to play this semantics game with you again'
I have heard this before. I hope this is true.

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Link to post - Posted November 14th 2015 at 7:44 PM
Last Edited November 14th 2015 at 8:17 PM
wcli456
devs - we really need a report/flag message/mute function in this forum.

sarumaru - well it's really very easy. if you dislike the buttons just don't buy it with your idols. I think it's plenty useful. I bought it.

your point - 'devs need to filter out suggestions' - I believe they do. the message also directly states the opening 5/25/100 chests button is a suggestion worth filtering out.

you still haven't addressed my other points -
1. you don't use buttons =/= others do not find it useful.
2. it has a future proofing function for when people get more idols.
3. the user interface does not need to be perfect with no excess buttons, it just needs to work.
4. there are no advantages to removing the button.

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Link to post - Posted November 14th 2015 at 9:01 PM
wcli456
I hardly think the devs will remove the button just because of your post (more evidence of filtering).
that's that.

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Link to post - Posted November 14th 2015 at 9:30 PM
Sarumaru
I'm all for the report/flag message but at this point people will likely abuse the function, since they will flag a message in hope of silencing the person's idea because the 'flag-er' disagree with the message. White knights that have no logically argument and easily offended will flag just because they do not like the message. Look at TsukasaWM, no one seem to be bother when the user has no input and is only here to spam.

'you still haven't addressed my other points -
1. You use the button =/= others do not find it useful.
I thought we are only talking about the 100x button not being useful, I hope you don't think that I was saying all [chest] button bad.

2. I didn't realize that not having the open 100x would be a problem in the future. A simple solution is not to hoard so many chest when you do not need gold from it. Even if you are farming idols, on an average 250 area run, average chest gain is only 10-15, so it will take awhile. If it is future proofing, how about an open 200x button for players with +200 chests.

3. That's why we are discussing for better change, hopefully. But die-hard fanboys (some girls) rather defend useless features such as 30% shared EP.

'4. there are no advantages to removing the button'
'no need to try convince the devs it needs removing just because you personally don't use it.'
Please do tell me where I said I wanted the button remove. Do be specific because I have asked before but I do not see any evidence.
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