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Hard cap at 1585?
21 Posts	Link to post - Posted November 16th 2019 at 5:33 AM Granite71 It's probably a simple thing to veterans of the game but I just hit a "cap" at 1585 and it has me puzzled. I'm tearing through the minions(they barely get on the screen) but the boss doesn't seem to take ANY damage at all. Do I just need to complete the Tier 3 "To Infinity and Beyond" on Ghostbeard's Greed or is something else going on?
692 Posts	Link to post - Posted November 16th 2019 at 11:36 PM Teschio Yes, you do. That, and buy a talent that increases the cap. There's a cap not on actual level, but on numbers: if the boss has more HP than the cap, you simply won't do any damage. GBG's 11th objective increases the cap (by a lot), and there is also a talent in the Utility Tree that does that (Arithmagician, lvl 6, but be warned, it is VERY expensive). With those two (Arithmagician is at lvl 10 for me, I have 158B idols) my cap is 3665. And yes, in some formations (especially RP2) I can reach it easily.
21 Posts	Link to post - Posted November 17th 2019 at 6:02 AM Granite71 Thank you. It's good to know I'm on the right track. Until now I've been able to stumble my way through the game and be satisfied with my progress. And though the level 1 of Arithmagician is 500M it shouldn't be TOO bad once I get the GBG obj 11 done and lift my wall.
692 Posts	Link to post - Posted November 17th 2019 at 12:21 PM Teschio At the point you're at, GBG is definitely more than enough, you won't reach the new cap for quite a while. PS: I don't want to crush your spirit, but Arithmagician lvl 11 costs 47.1 B idols :D Luckily, you won't have to worry about that for a long time.
21 Posts	Link to post - Posted November 17th 2019 at 12:38 PM Last Edited November 17th 2019 at 12:39 PM Granite71 :p I'm still plugging and chugging the lower tiers anyway. I only crested 1500 at the beginning of Emos full Moon. I've been running the free plays as they hit the %50 bonus and trying to squeeze the other objectives in between them and spreading the Idols over the lowest cost talents as I go. (probably not the most efficient way to do it but so far I'm still having fun) After finishing the GBG obj 11 I'll go back to the tier 2 obj for APD and MFR. At least until the thanksgiving event starts. ;)
58 Posts	Link to post - Posted November 23rd 2019 at 4:08 PM tl93 Yes, one rank of Arith might be worth its cost (500M idols for a factor of 1e20), but GBG Tier 3 11th (To Infinity and Beyond) only costs the time to run the prerequisites and gives a factor of 1e92 (from 1e308 to 1e400). Then there is RPT Tier 3 11th (Bullet Hell) that gives a factor of 1e200 (from 1e400 to 1e600). At this time, RPT 3.11 is the single biggest increase in maximum damage. FWIW, based on my experience and calculations, the maximum areas and maximum boss bonus idols (with all Tier 2 11ths but before any Big Earner bonus) would be: 308: 1,585 ------ 560,115 328: 1,685 ------ 834,687 400: 2,065 ---- 3,793,092 420: 2,165 ---- 5,648,142 600: 3,095 -- 228,860,511 620: 3,200 -- 347,591,814 Also from my notes, it is almost certain to get at least 30% of these boss bonus idols and almost never more than 50% of them on a given run. Average - 39.82% Median -- 39.71% Maximum - 53.54% Minimum - 22.32% Resets ---- 466 Then also, regarding the "as they hit %50 bonus" comment, the only "passage of time" recharging of the bonus is 5% once per 24 hours. The other recharge is 1% per 250 areas completed on Free Play objectives. So, when you do get to the point of only playing Free Play objectives, my advice would be to pick the best campaigns' Free Plays to go deep and then the others play for 30 minutes or for as much Sprint Mode as you have and then reset. (This also makes MaM 3.11, From the Ashes, quite useful for the doubling of Sprint Mode which gives Sprint to area 1,000 so 4% from a single sprint.)
21 Posts	Link to post - Posted November 24th 2019 at 8:16 AM Granite71 Thank you for the information tl93. It will let me plan my progress(for a given definition of "plan") for the next few weeks/months. The chart lets me know the point where I'll have to push finishing tier 3 of RPT to continue progressing(if I haven't gotten there naturally by my style of play)
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