Hello guys!

I got flash sale for billy act of congress, and have 10 hours to decide if i buy it or not.

My doubt is, since we have sjin/turp now, if it will really matter at all (he still naked, but i can get epic in future, and have sjin/turp with hammer/chocolate epic).

So the true question is about the nature of "increase item drop" bonus:

if i have 100% bonus from crus A and 100% bonus from crus B, the monster will drop 3 items or 4 items?

Thanks!!!

Draigos

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That is how it works, yes. At least, I'm fairly sure of it. For as long as I've had Billy and Mindy as a pair, the only time I've gotten an odd-numbered drop is when neither of them proc. Otherwise, I've always gotten items in increments of either 2 or 4.

So if one procs, 2 drops. If two procs, 4 drops. If three procs, 8 drops.

It makes sense to me since having two item-droppers with an additive buff ("adds one" instead of "doubles, then re-doubles") wouldn't be able to drop 4 items at once, but if I'm wrong, anyone is free to correct me.

Also, yes, anything over 100% drop rate is moot. Billy caps at 80%, but Mindy can mimic an effect even better, so her item drop rate can reach 120%, which is 20% that does nothing. Having a higher-than-100% drop rate does not add more drops than the initial doubling effect.

One thing I wonder, though is if Mindy copies Billy and Sjin, do the two abilities being copied by Mindy apply separately, or does it only count per-crusader? She would have two item-dropping abilities, so I wonder if they trigger by themselves, or act as a cumulative percentage for Mindy. Ergo, if she copies both, is there a chance that item drops can reach 32, or is the current max still 16? Not that a 32-drop would really be all that useful outside of clearing 0/25 areas in a single enemy, but just something to wonder about.

You're right, Amanda. My math has been really off today. Not sure why. I flubbed on another post earlier. For some reason, I was treating "2" as the base amount, not "1". It is getting hotter where I am, and I HAAAAAAAAAAAATE warm weather, so maybe that's throwing me off. Anyway, question still stands. Does Mindy copying two item drop effects count as two potential separate procs, or just one overall proc per crusader?

If you've gotten a 16-drop, then wouldn't that mean Mindy DOES get two procs?

Anything else wouldn't make sense. Mindy is mimicing two abilities independently from each other. This is also why she isn't copying Sjin's constructs but only his 'Let's Build' ability building different constructs starting every 30 seconds when adjacent to only two crusaders. If there would be any merge, you would have seen this before with any other abilities like DPS or Gold buffs and players would have cried out - rightly so from my perspective.

absolutely true :-)

Yes, once you max her skills she can steadily maintain 2 mimes, if she is adjacent to more than 2 she will cycle through them.

Just to make it clear, Mindy is only ABLE to copy 2 crusaders at a time. The reason people put her in a corner with 2 other crusaders is because that lets a player know exactly what buffs they will always be getting, as opposed to putting her beside 3 crusaders, where she'd only have 2 of those crusaders' abilities at any given moment, but which 2 she'd be copying changes every few seconds, and therefor becomes less reliable.