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I mean, it makes sense!
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- Posted April 8th 2017 at 12:49 PM
AnimenutI just happened to discover how Mindy interacts with Karen. Karen's "Nine Lives" ability allows her to resurrect herself on death 8 times, additively losing 10% of her DPS each time. Because of one of the event objectives having insta-kill monsters, I have her up front to tank a few insta-kills, obviously, but just realized "Oh right, Mindy can copy that ability" and so up to the front she moves to tank in the second front slot. HOWEVER, Mindy obviously also copies the damage reduction.....at 75% effectiveness. You math nerds know what that means. Normally, Mindy's "Mimic" ability copies an ability to a slightly-less-useful degree, but in THIS case, she only loses 7.5% of her DPS per death.
Yeahyeah, I know, she's not a DPSer in general, so this is a fairly useless observation, but I just find it deeply amusing that her "copy to a lesser degree" ability actually makes her version BETTER than who she is copying. |
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- Posted April 8th 2017 at 1:15 PM
AndreasWhat gear does Mindy have for you? With the right gear, Mindy copies abilities of others with 150% of their power. Her being better than the crusader she is mimicing usually is the norm then :-)
The bad news might be that if you want to mimic Karen, having Mindy on good gear, is actually bad for you then since the decrease of DPS then is increased. |
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- Posted April 8th 2017 at 1:36 PM
AnimenutThe numbers I gave should tell you the gear I have for Mindy. The original number is 10% and she copies at 7.5%, meaning she gets 75% effectiveness, meaning I have her rare hat. Yes, I know that her epic gear copies 1-for-1, and everything above epic copies at a better rate than the original, but the original effect of "Mimic" is intended to be a "copy, but slightly less powerful"-type skill. Her epic gear raises that to a perfect copy ability, but the concept of any given skill is usually best represented somewhere between their rare and epic gear.
I would have LONG since had Mindy's legendary hat if the the event chests for her EVER DROPPED THE EPIC HAT!!! 25 jeweled chests largely wasted >.> |
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- Posted April 8th 2017 at 1:37 PM
AzamagonLast Edited April 8th 2017 at 1:39 PM This happens with anything Mindy copies and Karen redirects, if it has a negative effect.
Example: My main DPSer right now is Frosty the Snowman. Chilling Power reduces the dps of those adjacent. Karen then, due to her Centre of the Universe (and by extension Mindy too, if she is copying Karen), counts as "adjacent" for Frosty. This reduces her DPS, but since my necklace on Karen is not epic, her decrease is lesser than on the actually adjacent Crusaders. Further so for Mindy (since I don't have her epic hat either). When I get higher gear on them, their penalties will thus get harsher and harsher. Why CotU even redirects Chilling Power is beyond me though (I mean, it's a negative effect, why would she want that one? It's even against the ability description). |
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- Posted April 8th 2017 at 1:49 PM
AnimenutLast Edited April 8th 2017 at 1:50 PM The only reason I can think that Chilling Power might be redirected is because even though it is negative to Karen, it is positive to Frosty, and so if she is affected by it, it gives Frosty another stack. Still, I admit that is really stretching for a reason considering, again, it is negative to Karen.
As I said the above, I realized that I haven't tested it for myself, so I don't actually know if Frosty benefits from Karen being affected. If not, then I'm at a complete loss for how to explain it. |
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- Posted April 8th 2017 at 1:58 PM
AndreasLast Edited April 8th 2017 at 2:03 PM >> I would have LONG since had Mindy's legendary hat if the the event chests for her EVER DROPPED THE EPIC HAT!!! 25 jeweled chests largely wasted >.>
I only got her epic gear through a recipe, too :-) |
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- Posted April 8th 2017 at 2:05 PM
Azamagon@Animenut
Yeah, it does benefit Frosty. But it's still a stretch indeed. Using him as my main DPSer I'm glad it benefits him though, since Karen (and Mindy if copying Karen) are heavily detrimental to powers which are split among the affected Crusaders (Like Sisaron's Loose Magic and Shadow Queen's Shadow Cowl). @Andreas. You and me both! I only recently got her rare hat thanks to the recipe runs. Can't wait to get the epic one! :) |
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