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Which Epic do you feel is best to upgrade to Legendary first?

85 Posts
Link to post - Posted March 9th 2017 at 12:32 PM
Tygari
Before I write mine I am going to mark off two that are constantly being told as absolute must upgrade.
Billy Smithsonian's Cuff Link
Mindy the Mime's Hat
These are both very powerful gear boosts.

Then beyond these two what next?
What ability do you feel is next best?
This is where people diverge and give different examples of what they feel is best.
Please share 1 Legend you feel would be a good upgrade pick.
Please explain why you chose that Legend.


Today I made my choice for my next Legend and feel amazing about it as a great choice.
I chose Veronica The Android Archer's Armguard.

1 She is a second slot crusader so you can get her into play within a minute of starting a new world.

2 Her Precise Aim ability is fairly powerful.

3 Her Armguard raises the power of her Precise Aim ability.

4 The Legend version additional ability of her Armguard also raises her Precise Aim ability.
I had the Golden Epic version of her Armguard. It gave +150% boost to Precise Aim.
The Legend Level 1 doubles the original value to +300% the secondary ability raised it an additional +100%.
So the Legend upgrade raised it a total of +250% for a grand total of +400%.

5 Legend additional abilities double each upgrade.
Armguard Level 2 only raised Precise Aim +100% for a grand total of +500%. Bit lack luster, but it only cost 250 common parts.
Armguard Level 3 raised the Precise Aim ability +200% for a grand total of +700%. That decent for 500 common parts.
Armguard Level 4 raised the Precise Aim ability +400% for a grand total of +1100%. That is really nice but it did cost 1000 common parts.
Armguard Level 5 raised the Precise Aim ability +800% for a grand total of +1900%. Which is outstanding but cost a large 2000 common parts.

6 Legend 5 Armguard + Precise Aim + Multicore Processing = +3400% dps + 1700% dps per additional robot crusader = With all 6 other robots that is +13600% dps

7 Add in Mindy with her Mime ability, she feed backs the bonus and this becomes = +3400% dps + 1700% dps per additional robot crusader + 1700% dps per additional robot crusader = with all 6 other robots that is +22525 dps

8 On top of Mindy herself copying the ability and the feedback to put out over +20000% dps along side Veronica.

That is over +40000% dps boost from crusaders in column or adjacent to both Veronica and Mindy.

This is why I feel Veronica and her Armguard would be a great choice for a top Legend Choice.

781 Posts
Link to post - Posted March 9th 2017 at 6:14 PM
Animenut
For me, outside of Billy and Mindy being the horribly obvious ones (god bless whenever Mindy gets a GE piece), Veronica is probably the best choice for pure DPS. She has no specific target (e.g. "only animals"), so her ridiculous buff can be applied to anyone, and her generously-wide effect range allows Mindy to copy and double-dip easily. Basically everything you said. However, to give a different suggestion to add something to this post, my personal second-best recommendation would be Mr Boggin's suspenders. "The New Students" is already a pretty strong buff regardless, but ends up becoming arguably the best DPS buff in the game with the relevant GE. It only affects animals, but considering the huge buff it gives, it hardly matters. Even if your main DPSer is not an animal, this one ability can do wonders for FORCING an animal crusader to be your main DPSer. Of course, that is just with GE. With GL, the buff becomes even more wicked strong, but also adds an exponentially-increasing crit chance buff, which does WONDERS for anyone with "Passive Criticals" maxed out, as well as kind of overpowering any clicking crusader by giving it HUGE base chance to crit without timed buffs. The buff starts at 3%, but doubles with each level, being a +24% chance at level 4. That is some intense, all-purpose damage. Even without an animal DPSer, +24% crit chance giving it's DPS buff would make Boggins viable in ANY formation.

My third would be Bubba's goggles, since Bubba's GL makes for some more huge DPS buffs and can do really well for increasing your gold find. Not quite as super broken, but certainly really useful and worth mentioning.

95 Posts
Link to post - Posted March 9th 2017 at 7:31 PM
Viktyr Gehrig
Lacking Mindy or any of my other top-priority crusaders, I did something that absolutely *noone* else would advise-- I upgraded all three of Merci's gears first.

Right now, Deflect Evil applies 127.5% of DPS per monster on-screen to every monster on screen, to a maximum of 900%. And should I ever obtain a magical DPS, her DPS will be increased by 100% before I inevitably upgrade the hell out of his gear.

85 Posts
Link to post - Posted March 9th 2017 at 7:33 PM
Tygari
Animenut the wall of text style aside that was a great post.

Viktyr you neglected to explain why.

95 Posts
Link to post - Posted March 9th 2017 at 7:48 PM
Viktyr Gehrig
Out of crusaders I already have unlocked, my priority list is to get triple Epic on Khouri, Larry and Snickette, which I will upgrade to legendary some time before Halloween, and Dark Gryphon's epic charm and Khouri's hat. I intend to upgrade Fire Phoenix's Gem and Feather, all of Khouri's gear, all of Siri's gear, and Thalia's ring and amulet.

My priority list for crusaders I haven't unlocked yet:
Mindy's hat
Montana James (all)
Veronica (all)
The Metal Soldierette (all)
Karen (catnip)
Wendy (broom & apple)
Jack O'Lantern (all)
Gloria (acorn & spellbook)
Ilsa (all)
Eiralon (all)

I am also considering elf and robot formations, that would make elves (and orcs) and robots into priorities.

95 Posts
Link to post - Posted March 9th 2017 at 7:56 PM
Viktyr Gehrig
Well, I'm not looking for maximum idol efficiency. I am looking to punch deeper than anyone else ever has, and that means a tanksplashing/cannon/firebombing strategy. Pretty much all of my choices revolve around Wendy/Ilsa DPS with Mindy copying Fire Phoenix and Montana James.

85 Posts
Link to post - Posted March 9th 2017 at 7:57 PM
Last Edited March 9th 2017 at 7:59 PM
Tygari
Viktyr You missed the point.

Your way off topic.
It not about strategies or how many legends you have bought.
It about one single legend you feel is truly worthy of upgrading too above all else you possibly could and why.

95 Posts
Link to post - Posted March 9th 2017 at 8:40 PM
Viktyr Gehrig
So you want me to explain my strategy for buying legendary gear, without discussing the strategy I'm buying it *for*?

85 Posts
Link to post - Posted March 9th 2017 at 8:56 PM
Tygari
No, i asked you to pick a single gear item that you feel was/is one of the best craft items you felt/feel stood/stands above all others as been/being worth upgrading to legendary.
A single card.
Not a group of cards, not a list of cards you bought or plan to buy.
Just one single Legend that shines above the rest excluding Billy's cufflink and Mindy's hat.

781 Posts
Link to post - Posted March 9th 2017 at 8:58 PM
Last Edited March 9th 2017 at 11:27 PM
Animenut
Viktyr, she is saying that the point of this thread is not to discuss how multiple GLs work well in groups, but rather how useful each individual GL would be on its own. Your explanation largely revolved around "These multiple things synch well together for pushing more areas", but the point isn't about item synergy, it is about individual, independent, isolated examples. If you have a plan set up for yourself, then that is great, but this thread is not about formation discussion. Essentially, the question being asked is "What single GL do you think is the best?" If you want to say Deflect Evil is what you think is best "Because it works well for screen-wide damage", then that is perfectly fine, but it is against the point to say "with a tanking formation including these other crusaders and abilities" because that is not explaining the GL's usefulness by itself.

85 Posts
Link to post - Posted March 9th 2017 at 9:01 PM
Tygari
Animetut Thank you. You said it well.
PS -- I am a she.

95 Posts
Link to post - Posted March 9th 2017 at 10:40 PM
Viktyr Gehrig
I am sorry that I missed the point of the question and became argumentative about it.

By way of apology, I would say that probably the best single legendary gear outside of Mindy's hat is Littlefoot's camera. It works regardless of your strategy, regardless of what other crusaders you have or are using, and can be inflated to astronomical levels.

781 Posts
Link to post - Posted March 9th 2017 at 11:26 PM
Animenut
And I'm a nut, not a pharaoh :P Gotcha. I'll edit the post to reflect that.

692 Posts
Link to post - Posted March 10th 2017 at 2:49 AM
Teschio
Mr. Boggins Suspenders. He is a very useful crusader overall, the legendary doubles his effectiveness, it's applied to what can already be a golden epic, but more importantly, it increases crit chance. By A LOT: 3% on level 1, which means an incredible boost once you level it (48% at level 5...). This not only gives a huge boost to your clicking (you need an autoclicker, ofc), but also massively increases your DPS through the Passive Criticals talent.

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Link to post - Posted March 10th 2017 at 5:15 AM
snow
@Viktyr Why would you consider Snickette worth upgrading? I found her rather lackluster...

95 Posts
Link to post - Posted March 10th 2017 at 5:50 AM
Viktyr Gehrig
@snow: Synergy with Larry. Favorite Prey is a good buff for the majority of strikers I'm interested in. Snickette and Larry trigger each other's legendary gear bonuses and they buff all three magical strikers-- magical for Ilsa and Wendy, non-human and male for Kizlblyp.

65 Posts
Link to post - Posted March 11th 2017 at 7:19 AM
GoldenNewb!
For me, it was The Exterminator. Being a slot 21 crusader, it is 3rd last to max at level 6000. I use all 8 of the robots + Larry the President(speeds up areas), Momma Caine (strengthens the Turkey), and Littlefoot (for overall DPS increase).

Mindy the mime causes my computer to lag. So I avoid her because of MY computer. I would like to use her.

When this event ends, I will go back to the pirates free play. I will add Detective Caine for his magnify ability and Princess Val for her healing ability.

Gold is the last of my problems as the exterminator gives gold in the legendary upgrade.

85 Posts
Link to post - Posted March 11th 2017 at 7:42 AM
Tygari
Last three posts are all off topic.

A legend I hope to upgrade is Fright-o-tron 3000 Tail for a -30% health debuff to enemies life.

257 Posts
Link to post - Posted March 11th 2017 at 9:08 AM
snow
Off topic? No. Why is as important as who. Not much point in just putting some names here.

130 Posts
Link to post - Posted March 12th 2017 at 11:00 AM
Last Edited March 12th 2017 at 12:12 PM
Azamagon
It's hard to pick just one.

There are four rather obvious ones though:
* Mindy's Hat - You mimic abilities into a BETTER version? Sign me in!
* Billy's Cufflink - Better progression-speed? Yes please! Combine with Mindy's Hat legendary for some nice progression-speed results.
* Mister Monkey's Toys - Gives absolutely insane gold potency, even more so with a (level 1 is enough) Cane legendary.
* Santa's Hat - Has less potency than Monkey's Toys + Cane, but is a single gear improvement which also gives some insane gold potency.

And now for some extra ones:
* FoT4K's Mask - If the wiki is correct, it gives 100% DPS boost to all Crusaders PER ROBOT in the formation! This is either a typo on the wiki, or a numerical mistake on CNE's end. Regardless, if it's correct, it is probably the best DPS-boosting legendary in the game!
* Boggin's Suspender - 3% crit at BASE... Not as crazy as FoT4K's Mask, but still an incredible booster. (And why 3% when BW only has 1%? Seems unfair imo).
* Boggin's Glasses (especially when combined with at least 1 legendary level in his Suspenders) - His New Students ability is already one of the best animal dps-boosters in the game, so being able to improve it this massively is very welcomed.


EDIT: Also, Veronica's Armguard as already mentioned, is crazy good too!

And @Tygari, I think your math is a bit... odd? I don't understand some of your numbers. Your endresult is correct (3400 + 1700), but how you got it from your showed calculations (which look flawed), I have no idea. Here's the math I got for it:

Golden Legendary starts by making the effect +300%, before the legendary bonus kicks in. This makes PA give 50 * 4 = 200% dps.

Then, each legendary level then gives a multiplier to the entire MODIFIED ability, meaning a multiplier to the base WITH the gold's bonus ADDED. It's NOT simply additive.

So, level 1 legendary gives you a 100% boost (a 2x multiplier) to the ENTIRE 200% dps-boost. It's thus this math:
50% (base) * 4 (The 300% gold bonus) * 2 (The 100% legendary bonus) = 400% dps boosting!
For all the levels, it means:

Level 1 = 200 * 2 = 400% dps boost from PA. Or, a 700% boost to the 50% startbase (not 400%)
Level 2 = 200 * 3 = 600% dps boost from PA. Or, a 1100% boost to the 50% startbase (not 500%)
Level 3 = 200 * 5 = 1000% dps boost from PA. Or, a 1900% boost to the 50% startbase (not 700%)
Level 4 = 200 * 9 = 1800% dps boost from PA. Or, a 3500% boost to the 50% startbase (not 1100%)
Level 5 = 200 * 17 = 3400% dps boost from PA. Or, a 6700% boost to the 50% startbase (not 1900%)

If you were comparing the Golden Epic to the Golden Legendary levels, I get these numbers:
Level 1 = 200 * 2 = 400% dps boost from PA. Or, a 166% boost to the 150% goldepicbase (not 400%)
Level 2 = 200 * 3 = 600% dps boost from PA. Or, a 300% boost to the 150% goldepicbase (not 500%)
Level 3 = 200 * 5 = 1000% dps boost from PA. Or, a 566% boost to the 150% goldepicbase (not 700%)
Level 4 = 200 * 9 = 1800% dps boost from PA. Or, a 1100% boost to the 150% goldepicbase (1100% is correct here... somehow)
Level 5 = 200 * 17 = 3400% dps boost from PA. Or, a 2166% boost to the 150% goldepicbase (not 1900%)


I really don't get your numbers, sorry xD

Regardless, yes, it's ABSURDLY strong to level up!
Also, sidenote, but I'd recommend to not level up using common parts, as you use common parts for ANY gear upgrade. Try to use spare uncommon parts instead, those have very little use.