Let me just start this by saying this is just me venting. Not meant to sound like I'm asking for advice or anything. Just venting my "#&##@#(#$ SOUP *##!!&#%#@ STEPPING ON A @*($*@ LEGO *$!@*#^% SONIC 06 &&#&@(!#&@!!!!!!" emotions.

So, I've had two goals recently. First, succeed in the mission to get RoboRabbit. Second, finally use Bush Whacker to push my way to area 1000 to get the related achievement. The Christmas buff gave me the boost I would need to reach area 1000 with Whacker's help, but I had sent him on Roborabbit's mission before the buff happened, so I was unable to use him until the mission finished earlier today. Due to Christmas plans, I was not able to actually complete the mission until moments before posting this. So, my two goals had the following requirements...

#1) Unlock Roborabbit: Complete the mission, which had 88% success rate.

#2) Reach area 1000: Have access to Bush Whacker when mission finishes for around an hour or two to push past the last 50-or-so areas.

This means that failing #1 has a 12% chance, and failing #2 would require failing #1 (12% chance) and then ALSO having Whacker be one of the injured crusaders (about a 2:5 ratio, roughly 40% chance). If my math is right, then that means that the conditions to fail #2 are around a 5% chance (40% of 12%). That is a 1-in-20 chance for those of you that don't know what 5% probability is. The fact that I'm writing this should tell you how it all turned out.

Rubbing salt into the wound? Whacker becomes healthy again barely 2 hours after the buff wears off.

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!

i dunno.....im having trouble figuring out soup and lego

Raymond, just switching out a basic buffer for Bush Whacker got me from 910 to 950. Considering the Christmas buff allowed me to easily get to 930 before even switching to pure DPS (as opposed to DPS/Gold), and then that "pure DPS" build reaching 950? The Bush Whacker buff would easily push to 1000 with the extra 6% crit chance giving an extra 300% dps buff.

Considering Bush Whacker can quite literally boost your damage output by a consistent...say...500% at least? Not including crits potentially septupling that or more. It's a shame people don't bother figuring out how to use such an incredibly useful crusader.

Teschio, Bush Whacker gets its click damage from the crusaders around it. With my current items, setting Whacker next to my DPSer actually results in my click damage being double what my DPS is. Mind you, "DPS" means "damage per second." Per second. Ergo, that number is the damage dealt over the course of one full second. However, a player can click many times per second, and get critical hits. If the average player clicks 5 times per second (assuming click damage = DPS) then that is already a 5x multiplier. However, in my own case, my click damage is slightly more than double my DPS, so that would become about a 10x multiplier. Factor in a 25% chance of doing 650% more damage (750% total damage) and that averages out to about another 30% damage increase (750/25). Assuming starting DPS is 5.00e180...

5 * 10 = 50 * 1.3 (30%, on average) = 65; so the resulting average "damage per second" (not DPS) would be about 65.0e180 (or rather, 6.5e181), and that is not including the separately-stacking 400% buff (x5 multiplier) for clicking an enemy directly, as well as the Christmas buff giving yet another 300% (x4 multiplier) DPS buff, both with stack separate from eachother, and are therefor multiplicative, not cumulative, boosting that 65.0e180 to 1300.0e180 (or 1.3e183).

Note that the starting 5.00e180 is extremely low for being in the mid-900s, so it was used purely as a base for the calculations, not as an actual DPS by that point, which would be closer to 1.00e182. If we plug that number in...

1 * 10 = 10 * 1.3 = 13 * 5 * 4 = 260e182 (or 2.6e184)

All of this without any "usable" buffs. Adding in power boost-type and accuracy-type buffs would DRASTICALLY increase that number from just the accuracy-types giving 100% crit chance by themselves, let alone the additional 700% (minimum) crit damage buff from those items.

And that is STIIIIIIIILL not calculating in the "Savage Strikes" x1.5 base DPS buff if things get tight.

Honestly, if you have a good tank formation, you might be better off with the Robo-rabbit than BW. Personally, I always get stopped on boss levels due to the increasing DPS that bosses do. On a standard level, I get a big DPS boost due to Jack O'Lantern's ability. The Robo-rabbit allows me to take some of that DPS into boss levels due to his wind up and clicking capacitor abilitys. I am going to attempt a level 1K run with my last run in this event formation, and I will let you know how it goes.

Oh, I get to 960 and past that on my regular FARMING runs. But then I cap my DPSer (which for those runs it's Alien, so I can reach the cap much later!). And there's NO WAY to progress after that (barring tanking formations or similar shenanigans. Certainly not with pure damage). Seriously, you can't realize how hard it is until you try. When damage doesn't increase but monster health does (exponentially), you CANNOT continue. It doens't matter if you have all the buffs in the world. I can safely assume that I have more idols than you (1.51 millions), ALL talents maxed, and I find it impossible, even after gold was worthless because of the cap and I switched in DPS buffers instead of gold farming crusaders. I was suprised too, I aksed myself "how hard can it be to do those last 50 stages, when I still instakill monsters at level 950?". The answer is, very hard. Impossibly hard. 50 stages seem like nothing, but with the level cap in place, you CANNOT make it. Please, try it even without buffs (or at least without rare ones), see how HARD each next stage is. Even if you manage to get to 990 with only the BW and common+uncommon+rare buffs and savage strikes and storms (and you WON'T make it to 990, I assure you), you need 100 times more damage than THAT to finish the last 10 levels. Seriously, TRY IT. Because you are theory-crafting without any actual knowledge, whereas I tried it.

Exactly... imagine how hard those last 15 levels would have been. Until the cap is raised, getting to 1k is next to impossible. The problem is, people won't believe until they try. And even after that, there will be someone saying "but maybe with weekend buffs and the right formation I could make it"... not unless those weekend buffs increase your DPS by a factor of 1000.

Thank you to the folks casually debating in this thread (I say that sincerely). I was thinking "Hey, maybe I can try a 1k run for this event", and this pretty much got me thinking "You know, trying for the Mission Impossible achievement would be a better goal for now", heh :)

Grats, how many idols did you have?

for the record Teschio, I hit area 1000 without any shenanigans (tanking or otherwise) in the thanksgiving event so it is possible:

http://bio79.imgur.com/all/

another fb player did also

I didn't use bw though and am not saying bw would have pushed animenut there - I think you'd need to be closer than 950 but I can't say