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The Temple of Dumb - what a great name for a mission

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Link to post - Posted July 7th 2016 at 7:37 AM
Andreas
I need help. I'm trying to figure out how to start the mission "The Temple of Dumb", but I can't get my head around which crusaders are needed to have a 100% chance or whether this is possible at all.

The requirements are the following:

3 Crusader slots
1 Male, 1 Female, 2 Gold Finder, 2 Healer, 1 Human, 1 Royal, 1 Animal

What I think it comes down to is that there needs to be one crusader with both healing and gold finding tags, but as far as I can see none exists yet, am I right?

I don't think this is a bug or an error nor am I complaining about anything :) I just trying to confirm that I'm not the king of the temple of dumb here.

Thanks in advance!

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Link to post - Posted July 7th 2016 at 8:08 AM
Teschio
Most epic missions can't get to 100% success rate. And you are right, there is no crusader with both the "healer" and the "gold find" tag.

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Link to post - Posted July 7th 2016 at 8:56 AM
Raymond
100% is not guaranteed anywhere, and perhaps never will be for some hard good missions,

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Link to post - Posted July 7th 2016 at 9:01 AM
Andreas
Thanks for your answers, guys.

I know there are good reasons to have a number of missions which can't reach 100% and that's fine, even part of the excitment for me. It was just that this was my first epic mission besides the one for gear and crusaders where I couldn't get the 100%.

Thanks again!

Erika, if you come across this, I think we can close the thread, thank you :)

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Link to post - Posted July 7th 2016 at 9:07 AM
Raymond
someone started and then appears to have abandoned the following which is missing the current event people and the last event too.

http://sidben.github.io/CotLICheatSheet/

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Link to post - Posted July 7th 2016 at 9:09 AM
Andreas
Yeah, I still have that link from you in my favorites, but it still is from version 0.60.1. If I ever figure out how to use Github I'll upload my updated version of it. I just thought I was too stupid to figure out the crusaders even with that list :-)

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Link to post - Posted July 8th 2016 at 5:23 AM
Drew Davis
Not as laid out as the github page but this page features all the current crusaders and links to their attributes on individual character pages: http://crusaders-of-the-lost-idols.wikia.com/wiki/Characters.

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Link to post - Posted July 8th 2016 at 6:09 AM
Raymond
yes and nobody likes clicking each of the 48 people to see the attributes of them, the other one is a grid of all at once an thus for example one could answer someone elses question elsewhere id there a healing gold finder...

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Link to post - Posted July 8th 2016 at 8:53 AM
zaqqaz
Healer and goldfinder is batman, but devs dont know about.

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Link to post - Posted July 8th 2016 at 3:44 PM
Andreas
Zaqqaz, the Bat Billionaire has neither gold nor healing tags, but thanks for playing.

Drew, I'm wondering if transering the tag-list to the wikia page might be helpful. That way it can more easily be expanded for new crusaders or changed when tags change.

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Link to post - Posted July 8th 2016 at 6:29 PM
zaqqaz
>> Zaqqaz, the Bat Billionaire has neither gold nor healing tags, but thanks for playing.

it is joke. He can heal and give goldbonus, but devs dont know it

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Link to post - Posted July 9th 2016 at 6:47 AM
Drew Davis
I think that's a great idea, Andreas. I have no idea how to do it myself but maybe someone else could do it.

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Link to post - Posted July 9th 2016 at 8:17 AM
Erich
Even the epic missions where I can fill every requirement slot, I usually get to, at most, 75%. I'm cool with that, because they're supposed to be hard. And those missions usually require a few days where I can't use my main formation crusaders.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but when I unlocked Grok through a mission, one of the required slots was an ogre, and Grok is the only one that fit that slot. So I think that's the devs having a go, but with love :)

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Link to post - Posted July 9th 2016 at 8:23 AM
Andreas
Yes, and to unlock the only angel in game you need the angel tag :) This is just a way to ensure, 100% probability is a rare case for gear and crusader missions.

Drew, and here was me thinking, you were the main editor of the wiki :-D But let me see, what I can do, I don't have any other plans the next hour or two.

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Link to post - Posted July 9th 2016 at 9:18 AM
Erich
I have the github tag-list bookmarked because it's so helpful. If that can get into the wiki that would be amaziballs, because it would help so many players that might just be starting out and have no idea.

859 Posts
Link to post - Posted July 9th 2016 at 12:51 PM
Andreas
Now, look at that, somehow this kind of table just appeared at the bottom of this page:

http://crusaders-of-the-lost-idols.wikia.com/wiki/Crusaders

As a disclaimer: I don't guarantee 100% correct tags for all crusaders just now. Also, the layout of the table might need a better design, but that will be the second step, probably.

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Link to post - Posted July 9th 2016 at 2:54 PM
Last Edited July 9th 2016 at 2:58 PM
Raymond
nice. seems that wiki editors also actually pay attention to forums.

personally, me as a programmer and spreadsheet lover, I have a series of row sums and column sums so at a glance I can see what tag is most or least common and which crusaders have lots or few tags in my own version of this table.

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Link to post - Posted July 9th 2016 at 3:28 PM
Andreas
nah, only that forum users went to the wiki and worked the table in. Was a nightmare for me since the preview function is buggy and the wikia design itself clunky like a freight train.

As I wrote in the other thread in the past, I'm working on a more intelligent version of this myself. As a first exercise to filter one or multiple tags so that the whole table only lists its crusaders and some other fun stuff and then we'll see if it makes sense to have a piece of software find the best combination for one or all of the available missions.
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