So, I'm not part of Kindred, but I saw this pop up on the front page and feel like I need to weigh in this. I think a lot of people are fairly easy to dismiss something like this as an over-reaction but I don't feel that's entirely fair. I've taken a few of the more specific, disorder related psych classes in the past and the thing you have to realize is that unlike something like Psych 101 which very generally touches on the subject of certain topics some of the higher level classes go into much greater detail. These often include more then just a text description of what happened, they might have things such as pictures, videos, phone calls, interviews, drawings, etc. Seeing things like that on that detailed of a level isn't easy, it's not a feeling you can really describe to someone who hasn't experienced, and contrary to popular belief is not something you become desensitized to. It's something that sticks with you and can be set off by something as simple as an item in an online game. Keep that in mind before you so easily dismiss something

That said however, I can understand and sympathize with El on this, I can agree with the others in that something that personal goes beyond what should be posted as a rant on the forums and should be discussed with the devs directly. Further, I don't want to be that guy, but if this is something that cause that much of a problem for you, you really should schedule some time to speak with someone. If you're still in school they can help direct you towards someone that specializes in dealing with these types of issues, or if you're working in that type of a field it's not uncommon for them to have a list of people you can see.

Just a question - totally off-topic... Was fishing and therefore doing something else
Was there an announced server restart? I can't log in at the mom.
10 min now...

I recently offended/annoyed 2 people on 2 separate occasions, and made them feel like they had to leave the guild... I meant no offence to anyone, but I've always been very outspoken and say what I feel - But I highly respect other people that express their opinions, and very often 'agree to disagree' on controversial subjects.

I like people that challenge me... I want to hear other sides of an argument, and try to understand it.

I kinda feel that neither of those people would have left the guild if I wasn't the 'leader'... They might have just complained/ranted about me, or muted me...

I never wanted to be the leader of a guild, for this exact reason... I think I'm often too strident to be a good leader, and I often take things to extremes.

I just wanted to be in a guild that respected all of it's members as equals, a guild that belonged to everyone in the guild, not 'owned' by the leader... but just by being the 'leader' many people still look at me as being 'in charge', and expect me to be wholly responsible for the guild, when I'm not... I'm just not afraid to step forward and organise things when something needs to be organised and nobody else is stepping forward... But I'm very happy to follow when someone else 'takes the lead'.

I'm not a good leader because I want to be myself, and not feel that I can't say things because I'm 'the leader' of a large guild...

Now this is the big question...

Who is going to step forward and take leadership of the guild from me? - It needs to be someone that wants to do it, someone highly active, and understands the responsibility of simply being 'the name' that is the leader of the guild...

Perhaps we could also let this guild thread die off, and the new leader could start a new one by copying the original post?

*laughing* Annie has the right of it. At least, we can say no one is bored by The Kindred, right?

oh just stay where you are , you're the most fit for being leader anyway. and the most active probably :P . and relax , it's just a game and no one can please everyone every second.

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*laughing still* *this is not my drama!* We obviously do not have enough game content to keep us busy.

If you end up with an opening I would be interested in joining your Guild as the Guilds I have been in do not seem to be moving at all and it is hindering my playing. My ingame name is Jaime. I try to play daily but life interferes occasionally where I may miss a day or 2, but lately I have been able to make enough time to play daily. Thank you.

Welcome, Saenz Family to our humble abode! :)

just to let folks know: Sparky13 is the wizard formerly known as Wank (and yes, Jo, I am still the oldest member of the Guild).