Hey all, Geoff here, obviously....so much for being "anonymous", logging in with Facebook and all...I'd get rid of the rule, it just creates issues, been knocked off number #1 many times, be lucky if you last 5 min, and that's OK, gives me something to do to try and get it back. Which is the thing, there isn't much else to do anymore! Please CNE, give us something...lol, HOT and Brotherhood are getting a little boring!

Geoff... in the forum "profile" in the top bar, you can change your name.

I think that the arena (being the only thing left really for those who have been at max lvl since day 3 of being out of alpha testing)besides HoT and brotherhood for those who really want to get to #1 would be ok to go at it. (also helps with not having to keep monitoring those offended by being "knocked off" or those doing the "knocking off".

I think in the sense of being respectful to others that if a fellow kindred knocks you out that you 2 don't battle back & forth numerous times (a day, within 5 minutes) however long it takes; but that you let that person have it for the day.

OR since you're bored already; you can do what I saw someone in world chat do: unequip some gear and make yourself fall down the ladder of egotism & then "fight" your way back up.

However, since I personally haven't gotten higher than rank 250 in the arena I know I cannot say too much as I don't have a desire to fight to #1.

I don't like the rule to not fight against the 1st in arena if is a guild member

Looking for a new guild if you have inactives or open ranks. IGN same as forum.

Update: The Kindred philosophy has had some updating and re-wording. One of the largest changes was removal of our redundant 'guideline' of not attacking a fellow guild member at #1 in the arena (reasons for it's removal are found in near the bottom of pages 2 of this thread). I have also added a new heading describing our organisation of ranks (how we use the ranks).

Please take a read to stay updated...

And as always, if there's anything you think needs changing, lets discuss it here :)

El deleted the post on her own Shiki.

I just spoke to El via email, and asked her to reply here to briefly give her reasons in person :)

Hello Kindred and curious by-standers.

Yes, I had a bit of a rant--although, you know me. It was a polite rant. After ranting, I asked fellow Kindred who were online at the time to weigh in, and they universally felt I was over-reacting. So, I deleted my post, and sent my comments directly to CNE because I felt they were primarily the ones who needed to understand my position. Bottom line, I felt the collection of candy underwear combined with the first event mission reminded me too much of college party-rape stories I have spent hours studying in my academic coursework because my coursework includes studying student life at universities. I didn't care to read those stories in the first place--many are extremely ugly, and the reminder of it by what was supposed to be a light-hearted event, particularly when part of my studies is to consider ways to eliminate that kind of behavior--all of that combined to lead me to feel uncomfortable with continuing to play the event or the game.

Had CNE responded to me I would have suggested to them that perhaps the event could be improved in subsequent years by the collection of something less risque--like toy sports cars--and to make it somewhat more obvious that players in the game are supposed to be fighting against the negative kinds of things we see in society. At this point, however, I have not received a reply from them.

In the meanwhile, I am reconsidering my decision to completely quit the game, and am considering just choosing to not play until this particular event has completed. I have even given thought to just showing up to chat in the interim--I miss all of you something horribly.

EL; don't know if this will help,but at 66, I was around when edible candy underwear 1st came out. As a matter of fact I eventually bought a set (for male & female) as a Valentine present for my wife. She thought it was hilarious and we proceeded to put it to very enjoyable good use! believe me, it was not something that I can conceive as being conducive to a rape/date rape scenario.
I understand your repugnance at the rape/date rape unfortunately frequent on college campuses these days. I worked for 7 years (until i burned out) as a residential counselor with little boys at a mental health facility. More than a few were born as the result of rape or incestual rape. Not a pretty picture.
However, the item in question here is pretty innocent; When invented in 1975 "Candypants” was promoted as lingerie in clothing shops, major department stores, motorcycle shops, candy stores and chic emporiums. It was considered naughty innocence." (See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edible_underwear). Unlike
"roofies"
Hope this helps get you back to us.