Well said Andaho. Economics are also affected by race, gender,age here in the U.S.~ with four characters going I may have to get rid of some...after both time,money and fun interacting with the guilds.Seems a shame.

Good points made by all. I would offer a few suggestions, and it hopefully would be something to keep people engaged during long content roll-outs. I really enjoyed the events, especially the Valentine's event. It provided a good weeks or more of fun, and had nice rewards. I was really hoping to see an Easter event this week, and some sort of regular event per month would be great. Better that than yet more Bounty missions, it gives us something substantial to do for awhile.

Another idea would be different styles of HOT equipment to earn, even if the stats are the same, everyone could get a chance of having a different look, other than clothing, everyone looks the same. It's boring just doing HOT over again for our companions, (those of us the have full sets), they don't really get that much of a boost from better equipment anyways. I know we can get the BH equipment, but it's too much effort over the gains that we can see, vs using them on skills. How about using that BH set in the HOT as a 2nd set? Just keep the BH tokens for skills only.

Perhaps merge the 2 servers, at least for the short term...it's difficult finding people to run MP's with you, especially now that everyone wants to run a different heroic tier, getting people together can be a challenge. If in the future the amount of players picks up again, by all means open a 2nd server. Sometimes at certain hours you feel your the only one online.

When rolling out new levels, make the amount of XP required to advance, make it quite a bit more than in the past. Nobody likes to see the next 10 or 20 levels done within a couple of days. Even if progress is slow, it's still progress, and keeps you engaged, and interested in finishing missions, even if it's yet another repeat mission, at least you did something towards the next level. Plus when looking forward to the next level, and next skill point of course is fun...but if you make it too easy, then people get bored. P2W often makes things far too easy for some in that regard, as well as others. Perhaps restrict the amount of Stam potions you can buy per day. Plus throw in an extra MP point per day, and 20 more stam per day for a sub...make the sub a little more valuable, with little cost to the balance of the game, but it might get people buying more of them.

Anyways, just a few thoughts I had.

Hi David, I like the fact you mention you can invite players to join multiplayer mid-run...or at least that it's in the works. Especially in the higher tiers, how many times have people left without a full crew because they thought they could complete it, or got tired of waiting for a full crew, left, then found themselves unable to complete the run. Plus others dropping out for whatever reason in the middle of a run...this would help a lot to fix these issues.

I just have one more idea to add to this, concerning MP's that is, that it's not clear on the MP screen when you see a partial group formed, and were thinking about joining, which tier of heroic they are playing, or just normal mode. I guess you could ask, but it would be cool to see something like "Desert T2", "Desert Normal", etc...before joining up. Just so you know for sure what your getting into...:-)

Also, I understand the need for server restarts to implement new features or Fix bugs, etc, but since these higher Tier level bounties and MPs take up to 45 minutes of teamwork to beat, a 5 MINUTE server restart warning is VERY IRRITATING. We are only allowed 5 MPs/Bounties.. and now ONE of them is wasted!

I vote for the automatic multiplayer instance restore if one is interrupted by a server restart. I think that is a marvelous idea.

Not if they don't give the 10-minute warning... after the built-in 5-minute warning, MP can no longer be created.

I agree with you Andaho and know how dedicated you three are at trying to get that spot weekly.

I didn't think buying your success in Paragon would be possible. As far as arena is concerned, P2W would be like buying a "freeze" token to keep other players from fighting in arena when the server resets on Sunday evening so you could secure top spot.

Indeed Tsu... but based on David's previous logic, anyone can earn BH tokens with time, so it's completely fair to instantly allow months dedicated playing/work, to be replaced with the wave of a credit card :S

Someone before mentioned having separate scoreboards for big-spenders... yes please! - I play games for a challenge and competition/to be competitive... This kind of P2W ruins all the fun of any competition.

Also, please consider removing Aly from the scoreboards... many times I have heard people complaining that they are number 11, and are annoyed because Aly is up there in the top 10, taking their place, and thus preventing them from getting a flag. - When they know Aly is only up there because she has received and spent loads of free shardium.

Ok, so this thread has become pretty much a "why is this game dead or dying" thread, right?

Well, i will mostly talk from personal expereince as to why in 3 short months i have gone from being devoted in game all day chatting and playing and investing real $$ to barely logging in and wouldnt now dream of spending a dime.

1st, yes, its the grind. In the early days the grind was there but it wasnt an outright do this get that reward, rinse repeat daily. Yes you had to grind hot for tokens if you wanted the gear but you didnt have to as the gear wasnt esential to advancement. Yes, you had to grind to find gems, but it wasnt guaranteed and they were so far and few in the right category it was negligible really and a nice surprise when you got them. Same went for MP gear, things were slightly challenging but they never felt impossible, a good varied group could always beat it but the mix of characters didnt matter. Grinding campaigns after 30 wasnt really grinding for brotherhood becuase the missions were random, sure i wished the random timer was quicker but i never minded paying for an odd refresh now and again.
Now, oh god, now, if you want to progress even slightly you must, do a desert run, you must do a forest run, you must do a bounty run, but no more than 1 a day as then there are no powers left to collect. Campaigns, well, ignore bortherhood, do the same few you have unlocked at a high tier, kill enough to get your powers then leave, no point going to completion, you got your frags. Now it is a true grind because you made everything T2 and above god damn impossible without perfect secondary stats for your character, huge gems and luck all thrown together with the perfect mix of characters to run the mp's.

That brings me on to what keiah was saying about finding the people to do the tier with you. I warned you this would happen and hoped to offer a solution before it happened in the thread you said you were monitoring, guess it went ignored, bringing me to the next point,

Ignorance, on launch day of the tiers i was happy and looking forward to a slightly more rewarding challenge so when i entered a solo bounty on heroic T1 and got 1 shotted by the 1st mob every time, well, i dont wish to swear but i did rant at the mod you had in chat as some had managed to complete T1 mp we compared stats and the T1 solo was hitting harder than the T1 mp, i protested, tried to get my point out that it was too tough and somethnig had to be wrong, guess what i was right wasnt i, but no matter how much i tried, all i got was patronised with comments such as, "you need stronger gear", or "aww, hugs". This immediately made alot of players quit, i know it was an error but the damage was done, you need stronger gear but cant get stronger because you cant win!
In general i think you made a right royal cock up releasing all the tiers, i understand that the likes of T6 are designed for after jungle is released and we get alot stronger but you have put something out there that right now seems impossible and who wants to play an impossible game at the hopes that the update will be along "sooner rather than later" the huge jumps of the tiers are a little nuts.

My final nail is that now the game has shifted to p2w quite dramaticaly. I agree, you got alot of defence from me early on, you were this grundbreaking team that gave you speedups but never strength advantages for investing money. Things like clothin were available but not a gamechanger. Now its packs every other day with 1 advantage or another such as socket rods which are basically a myth to the non paying player, and an extra gem is a game changer. I dont know what benefits you talk of in craft hall cause it just seems useless to me, nothing there worth crafting, again great ideas were put forward to you but chose not to listen.

On a final note. There has been a solution to the waiting game segment of what to do when you complete content, many solutions but 1 that recurs alot. Live pvp action. Your arena sucks, give us an interserver championship, guild battles or any of the 100 ways to pitch player against player, you dont have to put out insane mobs to give us a diverse challenge the players are always changing and a challenge all on their own.

You need to make money, then listen to your customers, go back, read the suggestion threads, listen in game to what we say without patronising us cause seriously as the OP said, right now, for me you are doing the exact opposite to why we loved this game