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89 Posts	Link to post - Posted September 18th 2020 at 2:01 PM Last Edited September 21st 2020 at 2:06 PM Barb Tompkins @Zingman Ok I see where you are going with this.Thank for your input. SO then I gather the AC IS then set up/involved as well which makes for higher scoring, while not getting the same points whacking manually. This way the player then can sit back and do no whacking.???YET the AC I don't believe is strong enough from what I read about it. BTW: I believe Ray hacked Justin server (he stated as such in chat yrssss ago)an nada was done about it, if I recall.So it was up the devs to do something.Also.,,YES, Ray was doing things that were not called for and that was none of my or any1 else's business to judge and bring him into this post,,,BUT then I just consider the source where it all came from as well as alll the comments slandering about me...LOLOLOL I needed a good laugh and wow today was the day I got it from the source guy. Happy Whacking!!! LOLOLOLOL
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89 Posts	Link to post - Posted September 18th 2020 at 3:39 PM Barb Tompkins tgcougar = maga2020 in CNE.
10 Posts	Link to post - Posted September 18th 2020 at 4:28 PM Teddyfish Yes indeed..the cougar is back..wondered if he would chime in, good.. I like his first name better than the last but it's his choice. If we wanted a REAL answer to this situation, he'd be able to provide answers but for some reason, don't think he'll waste his time.
89 Posts	Link to post - Posted September 18th 2020 at 4:32 PM Last Edited September 18th 2020 at 4:40 PM Barb Tompkins Teddyfish... Probably not.IT,, has gotten out of control, big time LOLOLOLOL.One has to laugh at all the gibberish against me I guess.LOLOLOL MY BF & I are laughing so hard with tears coming down our faces..LOLOLOLOL
10 Posts	Link to post - Posted September 18th 2020 at 4:40 PM Teddyfish Hi Barb..yes, I do believe it's time to laugh at the pretentious ways some enjoy this game and respond..We all have our way of playing and speaking..I just always had thought right from wrong pertaining to the whole picture and players, but I'm probably just too narrow minded at this point. After 7 or 8 years, it may be time to take a break and get back to some other games or perhaps, a real life.
19 Posts	Link to post - Posted September 18th 2020 at 4:40 PM Zingman The auto-clickers don't score any more/less per whack than normal players, they go for a much longer duration as far as I know. Example: Say you score 100 pts/whack and can whack 100 bushes/min (10000 pts/min) Player A has a sub-optimal setup (and no auto-clicker). They run out of energy after an hour and fifteen minutes -- scoring 750K Player B has an optimal setup that lets them whack for much as they want (but no autoclicker) they play for four hours before they get bored -- scoring 2.4 mil Player C has an optimal setup and uses an auto-clicker. They load it up in the morning and let it run all day (24 hours) -- scoring 14.4mil That's assuming the autoclicker "clicks" at the same speed as a human (it doesnt). If it "clicks" 50% faster it will score 21.6 mil, but even if it "clicks" 50% slower it will score 7.2 mil, which is still 10x what a sub-optimal player can/will do.
89 Posts	Link to post - Posted September 18th 2020 at 4:46 PM Last Edited September 21st 2020 at 2:19 PM Barb Tompkins Teddyfish I only play for few hrs most days, sorry still LOLOLOL ing here..I will still play and laughing while I whack..LOLOLOLOL..BF does some manual whacking for me as well when he is here..He loves this game...LOLOLOLOL Happy Whacking !!!!
89 Posts	Link to post - Posted September 18th 2020 at 4:54 PM Last Edited September 21st 2020 at 3:16 PM Barb Tompkins Zingman okay I re-read your logic BUT if that is the case then how would any1 get '''40+ 70+ mill per day.''''IS my ?'''. I manually play 10 -12 hrs off and on of course, getting 10- 11 mill for the entire day.I cant whack faster cause the game is not set up to do so and I also have a Real Life to content with LOLOLOLOL EDITED: Monday Sept 21st----- rank 6 (now)has gone UP 5 SPOTS from 11th-12th (late/middle-July-----Sept 19th ).(starting score was 088 odd million,now score is 2,072,087,000 billion score)''This is my ?????????? STILL!!!!! ''''How in the ham soup is it being done???'''' I also informed 7 f's to plz inform Nick,,, about this and NOT ME...BUT they are too afraid and I told them fear is not an option being gutsy is. BTW: MY title in BW2 is finder-outer!!!!!!!!!!!!!
218 Posts	Link to post - Posted September 18th 2020 at 6:04 PM tgcougar Wow -- Ruth Bader Ginsburg passed?! RIP & condolences to her family.
3215 Posts	Link to post - Posted September 23rd 2020 at 1:41 PM Nickshire (CNE Dev) Hello folks! I appreciate you discussing auto-clickers and what constitutes unfair gameplay with regards to the rankings. I think this is a healthy thing for the community to talk about. Some parts of this discussion were not civil, including what amounts to name calling. This kind of behavior is not welcome on the forum, and by no means is required for this kind of discussion. Please treat each other nicely. You all know the community conduct guidelines: http://www.codenameentertainment.com/?page=conduct I have fixed being able to load up more than one instance of your account at one time. This should fix any exploits utilizing that bug. As Flybaby said, auto-clickers won't let you whack bushes faster, due to the rate at which the bushes grow back. Instead, they allow you to whack for prolonged stretches of time. We cannot detect the use of programs outside of BW2 from within the application. Any detection based on click rate and regularity could easily be adjusted for in these applications. As such, we can only measure the duration and regularity of bush whacks. This is where we're considering implementing a kind of "fatigue" to how much you can gain from prolonged bush whacks. An example is, if we detect an account has been whacking bushes for 20 hours straight, then the rewards from those bushes start tapering off, and they begin to yield more Nothings. After a reasonable break, this fatigue would be removed, and the full rewards would return. However, auto-clickers could still be configured to account for these times to maximize rewards. I would love to hear any thoughts or suggestions regarding this idea. Also, I've checked with Justin about the exploit reward, and will now accept exploit reports and will award BB accordingly, depending on how severe the exploit is. The amount, if any, is entirely at my discretion.
372 Posts	Link to post - Posted September 23rd 2020 at 3:21 PM phagras Fatigue is an interesting idea but the top players will still be the top players albeit with a slightly lower score. As you say the clickers could still be configured around the restriction so what are we gaining?
305 Posts	Link to post - Posted September 23rd 2020 at 3:25 PM Kate (aquafishy) Agreed, phagras, and fatiguing will punish those chronically ill players who are mostly immobile in front of a television who don't sleep well. I do welcome the return to single instances only, and the return of rewards for reported game exploits.
63 Posts	Link to post - Posted September 23rd 2020 at 5:41 PM Wackalott What about an autoclicker just for FISHING and Casino. Also I think a lot use an autoclicker for the casino as it is tedious and the wait time in between stop and click could be adjusted if you do not want to use an auto clicker.Some people like Eliz and Canham have made their own autoclickers for fishing perhaps you could borrow/buy rent lol their program and use one as a trial and monitor it to see how popular it would be . jUST A SUGGESTION.
89 Posts	Link to post - Posted September 23rd 2020 at 8:38 PM Last Edited September 23rd 2020 at 10:08 PM Barb Tompkins 1:) Deduct score from rank 6/7-----700 million each-----. This,,, has to be dealt with first and foremost, the multiple/single movement was fast. Again,, I am not relating to ranks 1/2/4/8/9. 2:) Please do not fatigue/punish the hard grinding players. This is just not kosher to state as such. 3:) Do not allow the usage of AClickers altogether. 4:) Use your administrative abilities to create a list and or use program coding of certain names to keep track of ''4 non-stop hrs ''of game players NOT 20 hrs..... A msg should pop up to let them alll know, game play has ceased for the day and specify the time they can play again. 5:)Put harsher restrictions on the conduct guidelines as well as in the forum. 6:) '''A Reliable Dedicated Game Server''' for BW2 would not have allowed rigging/milking of the game. 7:)I say Nick,,you have to be fair to alll of us grinding players, again, by referring back to number 1 :) first and foremost and then work from there. 8:)I did the latter at a College for many students..and the lists did work. A msg would pop up and they were locked out for the day from alllll computer rooms. And on those notes : are my thoughts/suggestions!!!!!
305 Posts	Link to post - Posted September 23rd 2020 at 9:26 PM Kate (aquafishy) The above targets players from a specific platform. It's time to regard Bushwhacker 2 as a CNE Community, not a kong, fb, armour, cne community. I personally trust Nick and Justin to know more about game play and who is doing what, so they can make educated choices about how the game will be scored. Making demands that suit a certain agenda, and assuming you know what specific players are doing is unbecoming.
305 Posts	Link to post - Posted September 23rd 2020 at 10:29 PM Kate (aquafishy) Um, there's an issue with the single instance update, the programming is counting myself an my husband as the same person. So, what, we are not allowed to whack at the same time? I think you will find there are a few families on CNE, where more than one person plays the game :D
63 Posts	Link to post - Posted September 24th 2020 at 12:38 AM Wackalott Can we just forget about deducting from anyone as you do not know how they play and to suggest anything else is getting ridiculous. Sounds like your on a warpath !! Aqua I too have more than one account at home and I use another one when out visiting,park wherever and it won't let the kids play at the same time either .. sooo there is some issue with that. I also trust Nick and Justin as stated above they want a conversation to happen not targeting and penalising players. As stated before I am all for some set up for the casino and fishing (can you tell they are my least fav things to do :))
372 Posts	Link to post - Posted September 24th 2020 at 3:39 AM phagras Deducting scores from players who haven't broken any rules is wrong. By demanding only two players be deranked suggests this is a personal beef rather than an attempt to address a perceived unfairness. I've seen nothing to persuade me that autoclickers should be banned. 4 hours is too short. We have elderly and other housebound players who play all day who would be penalised. Why only "certain names" to be tracked? Would you be allowed to manually grind all day while others you disapprove of aren't allowed to play? I don't think the conduct guidelines need to be reviewed.
677 Posts	Link to post - Posted September 24th 2020 at 4:22 AM jpl77 @Nick I do appreciate your comments and efforts, they are too little too late. Player Conduct 1) The code of conduct is really rather pointless unless it is enforced. It took A LOT of complaints about a player being rude, mean and causing drama, fights and making the chat and forum a poisoned environment, abusing privileges etc and only after months of complaints was a temp ban enacted. 2) You can see Barb is still out attacking other players, even after you've specifically pointed back to the player code of conduct. Her forum rampage has now extended to Kate, her husband Kango and MAGA as well. She's demanding that you keep lists of certains players and keep track of them and "harsher" restrictions on the code yet she blatantly ignores the code herself. Very hypocritical. "Do not harass, advocate harassment, or make false accusations of another person or entity" hmmmmmmm, if I ever saw an example of 'first issue warning' it was Nick's pointing to the code... Barb T's rant/rampage against Nick seems like it fits the conditions for the "For the second, a temporary ban.' Fatigue - Personally, I think this is something you could improve on to curb the use of autoclickers and 24/7 play. That being said, reducing the 'reward' of the bush drops to nothing really doesn't do much, especially for rankings. Considering XP/rankings are related to the amount of bushes and monsters whacked it won't change or effect how 24/7 clickers will climb and maintain position on the ranking boards. - I think the simplest solution is one based on math. If you based the game on clicking x number of bushes in y seconds, then that equals a max cap of how many bushes a player could whack in 1 day. If your 'fatigue' was just simply a maximum cap of bushes whacked you could eliminate the issues caused by autoclickers and as you call them 'external programs'. Set the bush/monster cap at your 20 hr quest reset timer. Exploit Rewards - Based on the current state of affairs and issues discussed here, BW2 rankings and ingame progress is far more important to players who find exploits vice giving up that advantage. Honestly, and Personally.... based on my past experience (never getting any thank yous or BB for reporting exploits) if I ever find something there is no way I'm 1) going to share it with other players 2) report it to you to fix. There is no incentive for anyone to bring up issues/problems/bugs/hacks/loopholes. And now because of this thread, it will drive all attempts at finding another exploit deep underground.

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