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Many of you long time players already know how mount leveling and feeding works. But have you ever wondered how much feed it takes to increase your odds to get a get the bonus you're trying for when your mount levels up?

I recently spent some time revamping the Mounts wiki page with a lot more detailed information, including the leveling up process. Plus, I created an expandable table that shows exactly how many feeds are required to raise your percentages to specific levels.

Here's the link, if you're interested in checking it out:
https://bushwhacker2.wikia.com/wiki/Mounts#Percentages

I also streamlined the existing [partial] list of available mounts, by adding tabs to the categories. However, because of the ever growing number of mounts being released, the updates are increasingly hard to keep up with. So, since Clint (in the Commons) has a complete and up-to-date listing, newly released mounts will no longer be added to the wiki page (unless someone else chooses to take on the task).

Feel free to leave your thoughts here, or in the Comments section (at the bottom of the Mounts wiki page)

Lvl 440 "Other Peoples Problem Solver!"

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i just glanced through that page. did not look at the mount bucks part yet but did notice that something important about mount feeds seems to have been taken out.

instead of that table of percent odds there used to be a much more useful thing that told you exactly how much one more small or one more large feed would do to your existing odds, it was quite ingenious.

at the start a mounts 4 possibilities each are at 25%, and here is why they are 25%, think of 4 bins, and in each bin at the start there are 2 marbles, so bin 1, lets say mana has 2, and there are 8 total marbles, so mana is 2/8 or 25%.

each small feed is like adding 1 marble to its bin, each large is like adding 4 marbles to its bin.
so at start if we add a small to bin 1, it now has 3 marbles out of the 9 total, so 33% on bin 1, while the other bins are 2/9 or 22.2% each
if we now add a large to bin 1, it now has 7 marbles out of a total of 13 so 53.8% on bin 1 while the other bins are now 2/13 or 15.4% each...
i.e. adding successive smalls to a new mount is like going from 2/8 to 3/9 to 4/10 to 5/11 to 6/12...
adding successive larges to a new mount is like going from 2/8 to 6/12 to 10/16 to 14/20 to 18/24...
much more useful then a table that is very restricted. but

you need to know how many feeds of any type you added to each of the bins then you can see exactly how much one or more of them will do to the odds. you can use simple math to figure out the total of smalls and larges you added, and thus know what one more will do.

it was written up somewhere in the wiki once, i thought in this page as this pavg is the page for feeds.

and a correction, a large is exactly the same as 4 small, not approximately.
"There is a small version, which adds a little bit of chance that your mount gets that bonus; a large version which adds a much larger chance (approximately 4x small feed); and a pristine version which guarantees that bonus on level up."

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Thanks, Rebecca

Lvl 440 "Other Peoples Problem Solver!"

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is there or was there a writeup something to what i said somewhere in the wiki? perhaps some other page?

Lvl 440 "Other Peoples Problem Solver!"

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using the extremely simple math that i described, if you only level one odds on a new mount it costs exactly 597 small, or 148 large to get to 99%. but i think due to rounding of 98.5% to 99% t is more like 391 small or 99 large. i will compare the spreadsheet i just made with your table later on.
but of course one can only do slightly more then 100 feeds as there is a cap on those.

p.s. yes essentially exponential. more aptly it is asymptotic and technically recroprical because if you had used 199 smalls and use one more small the effect of that is 1/200, or really 1/206 due to the tiny effect of the initial state of the other 3 odds

Lvl 440 "Other Peoples Problem Solver!"

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here is a small image of my spreadsheet
http://prntscr.com/lu76ti
has non spreadsheet equations also

some slight differences in values
i get 97.5% at 232 small feeds added. 98.0% at 292 so they clearly round not just the display of the numbers but the use also.

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I wasn't able to view the higher percentages on your spreadsheet, but it seems that we have similar numbers, although we have a different way of getting to the results. You're doing math calculations, which shows decimals, while I did it using actual feed and recording the data as I played the game.

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That's okay. I'm good.